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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #506 on: September 06, 2016, 08:14:00 PM »
I am at day 123. Although I never joined a quit group I do like to poke around the site.

A topic I have always wondered about but haven't seen much about - does dipping cause gastrointestinal problems?

It seemed to give me frequent heartburn and acid indigestion. It also made me poop at least twice as often. I swear I could throw in an after dinner dip and be on the toilet before I finished the chew. It is hard for me to isolate the chew as the cause since I was doing it for 25 years. But I am pretty sure I got immediate relief of these issues from quitting. But everything is so cloudy and unfortunately my drinking and diet have become worse since quitting

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #505 on: September 06, 2016, 08:12:00 PM »
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m new here and not sure where I should post this. But here goes. I've been quit for about 3 months now. And I was wondering about how long it should take the leukoplakia to heal. Also I've been chewing the Smoky Mountain and was wondering if there's anything harmful with that and if that would possibly slow down the healing. Any experience with any either of these please let me know. Thank you. And how do I know if anyone replies and where do I check?
I've been using the Hooch herbal snuff mainly, but I have used Smokey Mountain. If I use too much Hooch, my gums get really irritated; sometimes worse than with the Copenhagen. Smokey Mountain contains molasses, so it will rot your teeth I would guess. Anything to keep the nicotine out of my mouth is how I feel about it right now. I'll worry about quitting the Hooch later.
Any ideas about how long the leukoplakia takes to heal. My denist said about 6 months. I'd say mines about half healed. Just curious what others experience is.

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #504 on: September 06, 2016, 07:18:00 PM »
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m new here and not sure where I should post this. But here goes. I've been quit for about 3 months now. And I was wondering about how long it should take the leukoplakia to heal. Also I've been chewing the Smoky Mountain and was wondering if there's anything harmful with that and if that would possibly slow down the healing. Any experience with any either of these please let me know. Thank you. And how do I know if anyone replies and where do I check?
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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #503 on: September 06, 2016, 06:29:00 PM »
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m new here and not sure where I should post this. But here goes. I've been quit for about 3 months now. And I was wondering about how long it should take the leukoplakia to heal. Also I've been chewing the Smoky Mountain and was wondering if there's anything harmful with that and if that would possibly slow down the healing. Any experience with any either of these please let me know. Thank you. And how do I know if anyone replies and where do I check?
I've been using the Hooch herbal snuff mainly, but I have used Smokey Mountain. If I use too much Hooch, my gums get really irritated; sometimes worse than with the Copenhagen. Smokey Mountain contains molasses, so it will rot your teeth I would guess. Anything to keep the nicotine out of my mouth is how I feel about it right now. I'll worry about quitting the Hooch later.

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #502 on: September 06, 2016, 06:16:00 PM »
m new here and not sure where I should post this. But here goes. I've been quit for about 3 months now. And I was wondering about how long it should take the leukoplakia to heal. Also I've been chewing the Smoky Mountain and was wondering if there's anything harmful with that and if that would possibly slow down the healing. Any experience with any either of these please let me know. Thank you. And how do I know if anyone replies and where do I check?

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #501 on: September 05, 2016, 09:12:00 PM »
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I took out my last dip just before midnight on 9/4/2016 which will make labor day just before midnight a full 24 hrs. With no chew. I stayed up late last night reading tons of posts on this website and to my surprise i was not the only one who jas been struggling with the addiction of chewing tobacco. I have chewed my way through the army then the police department and now industrial service. Total amount of time was 1 to 2 cans a day for 15 years. I tried quitting several times but i believe my mind was in the wrong place. After stumbling upon this website last night i all of a sudden had the will power and mindset to just stop. I have never felt so enthusiastic about quitting. I didnt feel much struggle today which is way better than the other times i tried quitting. I just kept telling myself their was a time when i didnt chew and everything was alright. I can not chew now and everything will be alright. Moving on through the day i got in a decent workout and some cardio. Before when i would workout i would wheez and cough im guessing from the nicotine because i would leave a chew in for at least a couple of hours everytime i had one in. The only time i didnt have a chew in was when i was eating or sleeping. Im all over the place right now with these stories. So back to after workout, i put in some smokey mountain peach herbal chew afterwards and for some strange reason it was very comforting to have something in the mouth that resembled my enemy. I plan on manning up through the tough times and prey that this is the last quit for good.
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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #500 on: September 05, 2016, 09:00:00 PM »
I took out my last dip just before midnight on 9/4/2016 which will make labor day just before midnight a full 24 hrs. With no chew. I stayed up late last night reading tons of posts on this website and to my surprise i was not the only one who jas been struggling with the addiction of chewing tobacco. I have chewed my way through the army then the police department and now industrial service. Total amount of time was 1 to 2 cans a day for 15 years. I tried quitting several times but i believe my mind was in the wrong place. After stumbling upon this website last night i all of a sudden had the will power and mindset to just stop. I have never felt so enthusiastic about quitting. I didnt feel much struggle today which is way better than the other times i tried quitting. I just kept telling myself their was a time when i didnt chew and everything was alright. I can not chew now and everything will be alright. Moving on through the day i got in a decent workout and some cardio. Before when i would workout i would wheez and cough im guessing from the nicotine because i would leave a chew in for at least a couple of hours everytime i had one in. The only time i didnt have a chew in was when i was eating or sleeping. Im all over the place right now with these stories. So back to after workout, i put in some smokey mountain peach herbal chew afterwards and for some strange reason it was very comforting to have something in the mouth that resembled my enemy. I plan on manning up through the tough times and prey that this is the last quit for good.
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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #499 on: August 31, 2016, 09:20:00 AM »
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Not really sure what to do here, Today is my last day with chew and all I know is I want to quit! I have tried to quit so many times before and I have only been chewing for 6 years. Now when I try to even think about quiting I start getting scared about failing again, About going to the gas station just for 1 more can which turns into another can and another can. My problem with quiting is my anger gets to me and my brain feels like its going crazy by its self only hours after quiting. But I wanted to stop by and introduce myself.

Thank you!
Welcome HUgeneral!

All of us have failed before, most of us numerous times. But quitting is possible, freedom is attainable. There is a proven formula for success at this site and if you follow it, you can beat your addiction.

Use this site to surround yourself with motivation, support and accountability. Motivation comes through reading about the success and struggles of others. Support comes from engaging with others, sharing your own struggles and finding out the people here are going through the same damn thing. Accountability comes from making a promise not to use any nicotine product for 24 hours. You make that promise first thing every day and then keep that promise.

The support and engagement is contingent on you making that daily promise in your designated quit group (yours will be December, as you will hit 100 days clean in December). That promise, "posting roll," is the price of entry for using this site and it is the backbone of the system here.

As I mentioned in a previous post, although you will find tons of support here, this is not a support site, this is a quit site. Once you take the step, you are quit and there is zero tolerance for using any nicotine product. The only way to do this is one day at a time, so you make that promise daily.

Eventually, you will discover the final piece of the puzzle - brotherhood. You will learn to care about the others struggling with you, as you lean on them and they lean on you. Be a man of your word, encourage others and use this site to its fullest and the system WORKS.

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #498 on: August 31, 2016, 08:33:00 AM »
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Hi everyone. I have decided to take to steps toward quitting again. Last year after having a medical procedure I was unable to use any format of tobbacco and was therefore able to quit. Once I made it fmthrougj those first few days I was finally able to be free of my addiction. Or so I thought. While I was not using though I changed my entire life, lost nearly 100 pounds, my anxiety deminished and I was all around a much happier person. Then I fell back off and dipped. Every since then I have completely fallen back into my old ways. Gained weight back, anxiety is terrible and I'm very unhappy. So I know I need to quit. I'm turning to this forum in hopes that having people in my position will be able to encourage me to succeed in my goals. Thanks guys I look forward to interacting with you all!
This all sounds like the most successful quit failure I have ever read here. Up until the part where you said you dipped again then it all made sense to me then. Whatever lead you back to that point in your life, you are going to have to take a good look at all of the reasons you put all of that effort into improving your life, then letting your freedom slip back away from you. I assume that is why you are here. Go to the Welcome Center and get started. You won't regret getting in here and quitting. It will be a tough road that you have already been down before, but you can make it man!!!
You've clearly got it in you to improve your life, but it sounds like you were missing the accountability to keep away from the "just this once" trap.

At KTC, you'll fill in that gap. Throw away all of your tobacco/ nicotine products and post a Day 1 with the December quit group. That Day 1 is a promise that you won't use for 24 hours. Wake up and post Day 2 tomorrow. Follow through on your word. Get to know the people in that group.

You will find tons of support here, but this is not a support site. This is a quit site. Work the system, engage with others and keep your word and you will successfully get your life back.
like both said, if you want change then man up and make the damn change get rid of all products post up roll and start pissing people off on here. You either jump in with both feet or you will be floating at the other with your damn floaties on stuffing a lip full of cat shit.

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #497 on: August 31, 2016, 08:26:00 AM »
Not really sure what to do here, Today is my last day with chew and all I know is I want to quit! I have tried to quit so many times before and I have only been chewing for 6 years. Now when I try to even think about quiting I start getting scared about failing again, About going to the gas station just for 1 more can which turns into another can and another can. My problem with quiting is my anger gets to me and my brain feels like its going crazy by its self only hours after quiting. But I wanted to stop by and introduce myself.

Thank you!

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #496 on: August 30, 2016, 07:46:00 PM »
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Hi everyone. I have decided to take to steps toward quitting again. Last year after having a medical procedure I was unable to use any format of tobbacco and was therefore able to quit. Once I made it fmthrougj those first few days I was finally able to be free of my addiction. Or so I thought. While I was not using though I changed my entire life, lost nearly 100 pounds, my anxiety deminished and I was all around a much happier person. Then I fell back off and dipped. Every since then I have completely fallen back into my old ways. Gained weight back, anxiety is terrible and I'm very unhappy. So I know I need to quit. I'm turning to this forum in hopes that having people in my position will be able to encourage me to succeed in my goals. Thanks guys I look forward to interacting with you all!
This all sounds like the most successful quit failure I have ever read here. Up until the part where you said you dipped again then it all made sense to me then. Whatever lead you back to that point in your life, you are going to have to take a good look at all of the reasons you put all of that effort into improving your life, then letting your freedom slip back away from you. I assume that is why you are here. Go to the Welcome Center and get started. You won't regret getting in here and quitting. It will be a tough road that you have already been down before, but you can make it man!!!
You've clearly got it in you to improve your life, but it sounds like you were missing the accountability to keep away from the "just this once" trap.

At KTC, you'll fill in that gap. Throw away all of your tobacco/ nicotine products and post a Day 1 with the December quit group. That Day 1 is a promise that you won't use for 24 hours. Wake up and post Day 2 tomorrow. Follow through on your word. Get to know the people in that group.

You will find tons of support here, but this is not a support site. This is a quit site. Work the system, engage with others and keep your word and you will successfully get your life back.
like both said, if you want change then man up and make the damn change get rid of all products post up roll and start pissing people off on here. You either jump in with both feet or you will be floating at the other with your damn floaties on stuffing a lip full of cat shit.

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #495 on: August 30, 2016, 02:12:00 PM »
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Hi everyone. I have decided to take to steps toward quitting again. Last year after having a medical procedure I was unable to use any format of tobbacco and was therefore able to quit. Once I made it fmthrougj those first few days I was finally able to be free of my addiction. Or so I thought. While I was not using though I changed my entire life, lost nearly 100 pounds, my anxiety deminished and I was all around a much happier person. Then I fell back off and dipped. Every since then I have completely fallen back into my old ways. Gained weight back, anxiety is terrible and I'm very unhappy. So I know I need to quit. I'm turning to this forum in hopes that having people in my position will be able to encourage me to succeed in my goals. Thanks guys I look forward to interacting with you all!
This all sounds like the most successful quit failure I have ever read here. Up until the part where you said you dipped again then it all made sense to me then. Whatever lead you back to that point in your life, you are going to have to take a good look at all of the reasons you put all of that effort into improving your life, then letting your freedom slip back away from you. I assume that is why you are here. Go to the Welcome Center and get started. You won't regret getting in here and quitting. It will be a tough road that you have already been down before, but you can make it man!!!
You've clearly got it in you to improve your life, but it sounds like you were missing the accountability to keep away from the "just this once" trap.

At KTC, you'll fill in that gap. Throw away all of your tobacco/ nicotine products and post a Day 1 with the December quit group. That Day 1 is a promise that you won't use for 24 hours. Wake up and post Day 2 tomorrow. Follow through on your word. Get to know the people in that group.

You will find tons of support here, but this is not a support site. This is a quit site. Work the system, engage with others and keep your word and you will successfully get your life back.

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #494 on: August 30, 2016, 02:03:00 PM »
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Hi everyone. I have decided to take to steps toward quitting again. Last year after having a medical procedure I was unable to use any format of tobbacco and was therefore able to quit. Once I made it fmthrougj those first few days I was finally able to be free of my addiction. Or so I thought. While I was not using though I changed my entire life, lost nearly 100 pounds, my anxiety deminished and I was all around a much happier person. Then I fell back off and dipped. Every since then I have completely fallen back into my old ways. Gained weight back, anxiety is terrible and I'm very unhappy. So I know I need to quit. I'm turning to this forum in hopes that having people in my position will be able to encourage me to succeed in my goals. Thanks guys I look forward to interacting with you all!
This all sounds like the most successful quit failure I have ever read here. Up until the part where you said you dipped again then it all made sense to me then. Whatever lead you back to that point in your life, you are going to have to take a good look at all of the reasons you put all of that effort into improving your life, then letting your freedom slip back away from you. I assume that is why you are here. Go to the Welcome Center and get started. You won't regret getting in here and quitting. It will be a tough road that you have already been down before, but you can make it man!!!
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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #493 on: August 30, 2016, 01:20:00 PM »
Hi everyone. I have decided to take to steps toward quitting again. Last year after having a medical procedure I was unable to use any format of tobbacco and was therefore able to quit. Once I made it fmthrougj those first few days I was finally able to be free of my addiction. Or so I thought. While I was not using though I changed my entire life, lost nearly 100 pounds, my anxiety deminished and I was all around a much happier person. Then I fell back off and dipped. Every since then I have completely fallen back into my old ways. Gained weight back, anxiety is terrible and I'm very unhappy. So I know I need to quit. I'm turning to this forum in hopes that having people in my position will be able to encourage me to succeed in my goals. Thanks guys I look forward to interacting with you all!

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #492 on: August 29, 2016, 09:18:00 PM »
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General quit discussion, questions, answers, etc.

Guests looking to quit looking for answers are welcome.
I'm in day 6 of my quit. I've used nicotine lozenges here and there for the past week. Curious what your thoughts are on using "aids" to stop dipping.
Nic gum and lozenges are all just different delivery systems for the same drug. You aren't actually quit yet. Dip, cigs, cigars, vape, gum, lozenge - it's all a nicotine addiction.

To quit, you need to drop it all, cold turkey.

Weaning down or using NRT just doesn't work. Every use of nicotine resets the addiction in your brain. By trying to lessen use or wean down, you just prolong painful withdrawal.

Luckily, nicotine washes from your system in only three days. Withdrawal and fog can last a long time, but it won't kill you and it will get better.

The folks here will help pull you through, but you have to commit. Throw away all tobacco/ Nic products and then find the December quit group and post a Day 1. That will be your first daily promise not to use. Repeat that every morning, as soon as you reasonably can, and you will break free.

I'm happy to help or clarify anything you need.
RReed, we quit nicotine here. Most (but not all) of us are addicted to chewing tobacco. As pky says, it's a delivery system. We welcome smokers too. We are addicted to nicotine. She is our enemy. She controls and consumes us. When you are ready to quit nicotine, you are ready to quit - and join us in this battle. It truly is a battle. We take it one day at a time, and we win.
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