Day 22 intro

[Mitch Betz]

Day 32......not a good day! 'Finger'

I was doing great being back at work the past two days (am off now for bereavement leave) and I did not have the need for taking the Xanax for over 26 hours. But since I tried to sleep without it I got the Hypnic Jerks again (shock going through your nervous system jolting you awake right as you are about to fall asleep) It happens continuously throughout the night and you get no sleep.

This is killing me. I have no cravings for chew at all, well, except for what I call slight anxiety cravings. Like my body is in an elevated state and wants something. Anyone experience the Hypnic Jerks?

I am thinking it's withdrawal from the Xanax because this only happened the last time a took a break from taking it. Please god, let me get better with each day, allow me to heal and live a better life.... I just ask for some sleep is all.......

I have had that for years. I have noticed in my nicotine gaps that they get a lot worse. I don't know what causes it nor how to prevent it. Fortunately for me, I'm a deep sleeper and it never has caused real problems. Just the times when it does knock me out of the almost asleep state and scares the hell out of me, haha. I don't have any real advice for you, just know that you aren't alone.

As far as needing help sleeping - I've only had one real time in my life when I had trouble going to sleep. When I was going through my divorce. What helped me a lot was drinking some "sleepy -time" tea and reading a book. Knocked me out every time. I tried a few medicines, but none helped me sleep and just made me feel like crap the next day.

I hope things get better for you.

Things will get better. A lot.

Dude, get out the calculator. How many days did you feed your brain neurotoxin??? How many days have you been clean from that poison? It will happen. In the meantime, keep posting here. You will be furious reading this back in the near future.

Quit with you today sir.

10,960 days feeding it neurotoxin. 'bang head'


Day 35 without feeding the brain neurotoxin "nicotine"

Returned last night from attending my wife's grandfathers funeral. I was feeling a bit depressed and was doing my best to be there for my wife and her family. I never knew (at 93) my grandfather in law stormed Utah Beach, fought at the Battle of the Bulge and took part in liberating one of the 1st concentration camps. There was a gun salute, the revelry playing and the flag given to my grandmother.

It made me think. If he made it through all of that I know I can make it through this. He didn't smoke or use nicotine once during his life. Makes my pathetic quit seem very small compared to what he endured. Sure some of you can call me weak, I'll admit I am, I let nicotine beat me. Nicotine! I let it beat me, a plant with thousands of toxins I stuffed my face with every day.

While not as bad as being in WWII, this is my battle. A battle that's a lot tougher than quitting heroin or cocaine.

I do feel life being more exciting, food tastes incredible, I love my wife more and I have more emotions than I have ever felt.

I am feeling the Hypnic Jerks quite a bit now and hope they go away. I think it's a side affect from the Xanax or either I have a vitamin deficiency. I am looking for help online and yet there is no cure and doctors have no idea how to treat it. I am praying to god that I don't have to go through this nightly or I will lose sleep every day. I get scared it will affect my ability to work, but I got to stop worrying, it's probably making it worse!

I quit with all of you today.....stay strong and stay quit!

They go away. at least they have for me. I had them too, mostly right around where you are in the quit. At 160 days I cant remember the last time I had one, and i used to get them quite often. Keep posting, keep participating, keep active in this site just like you are and you will be amazed at how great things are going to get.

Since my quite date its amazing how many things I can do that I couldn't do before without WITHOUT nicotine: Golf, yard work, household maintenance, drive, surf the net, Go to Vegas, watch sporting events, concentrate on a work project, rake leaves, shovel snow, run the snowblower....

What a complete addict I am..

I also realize that since I rarely think about dip at ALL anymore, how easy the nic bitch can sneak back into my life. Different way of thinking for me now.. goes like this:

I know if I chew even one time again 2 things will happen: (1) I will puke, first.. (2) I will be right back at it and ick up where i left off 160 days ago.

and then ill be right back at the damn epileptic shakes we are talking about. Noway man.

Just hang in there bud youll get through everything nic throws at you

[JB65]

Day 32......not a good day! 'Finger'

I was doing great being back at work the past two days (am off now for bereavement leave) and I did not have the need for taking the Xanax for over 26 hours. But since I tried to sleep without it I got the Hypnic Jerks again (shock going through your nervous system jolting you awake right as you are about to fall asleep) It happens continuously throughout the night and you get no sleep.

This is killing me. I have no cravings for chew at all, well, except for what I call slight anxiety cravings. Like my body is in an elevated state and wants something. Anyone experience the Hypnic Jerks?

I am thinking it's withdrawal from the Xanax because this only happened the last time a took a break from taking it. Please god, let me get better with each day, allow me to heal and live a better life.... I just ask for some sleep is all.......

I have had that for years. I have noticed in my nicotine gaps that they get a lot worse. I don't know what causes it nor how to prevent it. Fortunately for me, I'm a deep sleeper and it never has caused real problems. Just the times when it does knock me out of the almost asleep state and scares the hell out of me, haha. I don't have any real advice for you, just know that you aren't alone.

As far as needing help sleeping - I've only had one real time in my life when I had trouble going to sleep. When I was going through my divorce. What helped me a lot was drinking some "sleepy -time" tea and reading a book. Knocked me out every time. I tried a few medicines, but none helped me sleep and just made me feel like crap the next day.

I hope things get better for you.

Things will get better. A lot.

Dude, get out the calculator. How many days did you feed your brain neurotoxin??? How many days have you been clean from that poison? It will happen. In the meantime, keep posting here. You will be furious reading this back in the near future.

Quit with you today sir.

10,960 days feeding it neurotoxin. 'bang head'


Day 35 without feeding the brain neurotoxin "nicotine"

Returned last night from attending my wife's grandfathers funeral. I was feeling a bit depressed and was doing my best to be there for my wife and her family. I never knew (at 93) my grandfather in law stormed Utah Beach, fought at the Battle of the Bulge and took part in liberating one of the 1st concentration camps. There was a gun salute, the revelry playing and the flag given to my grandmother.

It made me think. If he made it through all of that I know I can make it through this. He didn't smoke or use nicotine once during his life. Makes my pathetic quit seem very small compared to what he endured. Sure some of you can call me weak, I'll admit I am, I let nicotine beat me. Nicotine! I let it beat me, a plant with thousands of toxins I stuffed my face with every day.

While not as bad as being in WWII, this is my battle. A battle that's a lot tougher than quitting heroin or cocaine.

I do feel life being more exciting, food tastes incredible, I love my wife more and I have more emotions than I have ever felt.

I am feeling the Hypnic Jerks quite a bit now and hope they go away. I think it's a side affect from the Xanax or either I have a vitamin deficiency. I am looking for help online and yet there is no cure and doctors have no idea how to treat it. I am praying to god that I don't have to go through this nightly or I will lose sleep every day. I get scared it will affect my ability to work, but I got to stop worrying, it's probably making it worse!

I quit with all of you today.....stay strong and stay quit!

They go away. at least they have for me. I had them too, mostly right around where you are in the quit. At 160 days I cant remember the last time I had one, and i used to get them quite often. Keep posting, keep participating, keep active in this site just like you are and you will be amazed at how great things are going to get.

Since my quite date its amazing how many things I can do that I couldn't do before without WITHOUT nicotine: Golf, yard work, household maintenance, drive, surf the net, Go to Vegas, watch sporting events, concentrate on a work project, rake leaves, shovel snow, run the snowblower....

What a complete addict I am..

I also realize that since I rarely think about dip at ALL anymore, how easy the nic bitch can sneak back into my life. Different way of thinking for me now.. goes like this:

I know if I chew even one time again 2 things will happen: (1) I will puke, first.. (2) I will be right back at it and ick up where i left off 160 days ago.

and then ill be right back at the damn epileptic shakes we are talking about. Noway man.

[Gone Cruising]

Day 32......not a good day! 'Finger'

I was doing great being back at work the past two days (am off now for bereavement leave) and I did not have the need for taking the Xanax for over 26 hours. But since I tried to sleep without it I got the Hypnic Jerks again (shock going through your nervous system jolting you awake right as you are about to fall asleep) It happens continuously throughout the night and you get no sleep.

This is killing me. I have no cravings for chew at all, well, except for what I call slight anxiety cravings. Like my body is in an elevated state and wants something. Anyone experience the Hypnic Jerks?

I am thinking it's withdrawal from the Xanax because this only happened the last time a took a break from taking it. Please god, let me get better with each day, allow me to heal and live a better life.... I just ask for some sleep is all.......

I have had that for years. I have noticed in my nicotine gaps that they get a lot worse. I don't know what causes it nor how to prevent it. Fortunately for me, I'm a deep sleeper and it never has caused real problems. Just the times when it does knock me out of the almost asleep state and scares the hell out of me, haha. I don't have any real advice for you, just know that you aren't alone.

As far as needing help sleeping - I've only had one real time in my life when I had trouble going to sleep. When I was going through my divorce. What helped me a lot was drinking some "sleepy -time" tea and reading a book. Knocked me out every time. I tried a few medicines, but none helped me sleep and just made me feel like crap the next day.

I hope things get better for you.

Things will get better. A lot.

Dude, get out the calculator. How many days did you feed your brain neurotoxin??? How many days have you been clean from that poison? It will happen. In the meantime, keep posting here. You will be furious reading this back in the near future.

Quit with you today sir.

10,960 days feeding it neurotoxin. 'bang head'


Day 35 without feeding the brain neurotoxin "nicotine"

Returned last night from attending my wife's grandfathers funeral. I was feeling a bit depressed and was doing my best to be there for my wife and her family. I never knew (at 93) my grandfather in law stormed Utah Beach, fought at the Battle of the Bulge and took part in liberating one of the 1st concentration camps. There was a gun salute, the revelry playing and the flag given to my grandmother.

It made me think. If he made it through all of that I know I can make it through this. He didn't smoke or use nicotine once during his life. Makes my pathetic quit seem very small compared to what he endured. Sure some of you can call me weak, I'll admit I am, I let nicotine beat me. Nicotine! I let it beat me, a plant with thousands of toxins I stuffed my face with every day.

While not as bad as being in WWII, this is my battle. A battle that's a lot tougher than quitting heroin or cocaine.

I do feel life being more exciting, food tastes incredible, I love my wife more and I have more emotions than I have ever felt.

I am feeling the Hypnic Jerks quite a bit now and hope they go away. I think it's a side affect from the Xanax or either I have a vitamin deficiency. I am looking for help online and yet there is no cure and doctors have no idea how to treat it. I am praying to god that I don't have to go through this nightly or I will lose sleep every day. I get scared it will affect my ability to work, but I got to stop worrying, it's probably making it worse!

I quit with all of you today.....stay strong and stay quit!

[worktowin]

Day 32......not a good day! 'Finger'

I was doing great being back at work the past two days (am off now for bereavement leave) and I did not have the need for taking the Xanax for over 26 hours. But since I tried to sleep without it I got the Hypnic Jerks again (shock going through your nervous system jolting you awake right as you are about to fall asleep) It happens continuously throughout the night and you get no sleep.

This is killing me. I have no cravings for chew at all, well, except for what I call slight anxiety cravings. Like my body is in an elevated state and wants something. Anyone experience the Hypnic Jerks?

I am thinking it's withdrawal from the Xanax because this only happened the last time a took a break from taking it. Please god, let me get better with each day, allow me to heal and live a better life.... I just ask for some sleep is all.......

I have had that for years. I have noticed in my nicotine gaps that they get a lot worse. I don't know what causes it nor how to prevent it. Fortunately for me, I'm a deep sleeper and it never has caused real problems. Just the times when it does knock me out of the almost asleep state and scares the hell out of me, haha. I don't have any real advice for you, just know that you aren't alone.

As far as needing help sleeping - I've only had one real time in my life when I had trouble going to sleep. When I was going through my divorce. What helped me a lot was drinking some "sleepy -time" tea and reading a book. Knocked me out every time. I tried a few medicines, but none helped me sleep and just made me feel like crap the next day.

I hope things get better for you.

Things will get better. A lot.

Dude, get out the calculator. How many days did you feed your brain neurotoxin??? How many days have you been clean from that poison? It will happen. In the meantime, keep posting here. You will be furious reading this back in the near future.

Quit with you today sir.

[jayboy]

Day 32......not a good day! 'Finger'

I was doing great being back at work the past two days (am off now for bereavement leave) and I did not have the need for taking the Xanax for over 26 hours. But since I tried to sleep without it I got the Hypnic Jerks again (shock going through your nervous system jolting you awake right as you are about to fall asleep) It happens continuously throughout the night and you get no sleep.

This is killing me. I have no cravings for chew at all, well, except for what I call slight anxiety cravings. Like my body is in an elevated state and wants something. Anyone experience the Hypnic Jerks?

I am thinking it's withdrawal from the Xanax because this only happened the last time a took a break from taking it. Please god, let me get better with each day, allow me to heal and live a better life.... I just ask for some sleep is all.......

I have had that for years. I have noticed in my nicotine gaps that they get a lot worse. I don't know what causes it nor how to prevent it. Fortunately for me, I'm a deep sleeper and it never has caused real problems. Just the times when it does knock me out of the almost asleep state and scares the hell out of me, haha. I don't have any real advice for you, just know that you aren't alone.

As far as needing help sleeping - I've only had one real time in my life when I had trouble going to sleep. When I was going through my divorce. What helped me a lot was drinking some "sleepy -time" tea and reading a book. Knocked me out every time. I tried a few medicines, but none helped me sleep and just made me feel like crap the next day.

I hope things get better for you.

[Gone Cruising]

Day 32......not a good day! 'Finger'

I was doing great being back at work the past two days (am off now for bereavement leave) and I did not have the need for taking the Xanax for over 26 hours. But since I tried to sleep without it I got the Hypnic Jerks again (shock going through your nervous system jolting you awake right as you are about to fall asleep) It happens continuously throughout the night and you get no sleep.

This is killing me. I have no cravings for chew at all, well, except for what I call slight anxiety cravings. Like my body is in an elevated state and wants something. Anyone experience the Hypnic Jerks?

I am thinking it's withdrawal from the Xanax because this only happened the last time a took a break from taking it. Please god, let me get better with each day, allow me to heal and live a better life.... I just ask for some sleep is all.......

[pab1964]

Kirk my friend, you're doing great. When you start coming to terms with things you have control over it will make it easier on things you don't! Quit on my brother! We're all here for each other!

[Gone Cruising]

Dude...
That intro spoke of torment and despair.

When you have a bad craving, log on and read that bad boy back to yourself. It would suck to have to eat those words.

Rock on, I'm with you today.

Thank you. I do go back and read it often to remind myself every day where I was......and don't want to go through ever again......

Day 31

Yesterday wasn't too bad going back to work. There was a lot of whispering being done around every corner by the nic bitch, but I prevailed. Just when I was feeling my anxiety crave come on I ended up getting busy doing something to take my mind off of it. If I had nothing to do but sit there at my desk and work and felt it I just got up and took a brisk walk. I was excited to be going home to see my wife, more excited than I have ever been under the control of the nic bitch. Even though I know she had been home crying (grandfather passing and funeral Friday) hours before I could get to her to console her.

The tough part was the drive home in the rain, in probably the 4th worst traffic in the nation (Seattle Area) I drive 86 miles one way to my job so it takes about an hour and a half one way with no traffic. That was a tough road at the start but then I turned on some tunes and turned my car into a rolling karaoke machine......jamming to AC/DC "Who Made Who". Yeah nic bitch we made you!!!

I didn't get much sleep last night as my mind was wandering again, so I am a bit tired this morning. Anxiety crave and lack of sleep.....that's my biggest issues right now with my quit. I just need to get through today and this Fridays funeral. ODAAT!!!!

Quit on brothers!!!

Kirk

[Gone Cruising]

Dude...
That intro spoke of torment and despair.

When you have a bad craving, log on and read that bad boy back to yourself. It would suck to have to eat those words.

Rock on, I'm with you today.

Thank you. I do go back and read it often to remind myself every day where I was......and don't want to go through ever again......

[Igloo27]

Dude...
That intro spoke of torment and despair.

When you have a bad craving, log on and read that bad boy back to yourself. It would suck to have to eat those words.

Rock on, I'm with you today.

[Gone Cruising]

I don't know how I could have ever thank all of you enough for coming to my support yesterday.....I just can't, but thank you.

Things are better today and dealing with the turmoil yesterday wasn't as big of a deal as my mind was making it to be. The nic bitch was whispering into my ear that I couldn't handle it. I handled it and I prevailed over you nic bitch!


A few thoughts so far from my quit. Please note I am not a doctor and am not expert, but this is what I have observed from my quit and my thoughts so far of my experience on day 28 of my quit.

Quitters
I believe there are two types of quitters and what we go through. One type is where you're feigning so bad for a dip it drives you nuts, you almost want to chew your arm off due to the cravings. I am grateful that I don't have that feeling or craving. Yet, the other type is the one who goes through serious mental/psychological withdrawals (anxiety/depression/feeling of loss/hopelessness) that lead to physical symptoms (headache, stomach aches, loss of appetite, sweats, insomnia, nausea) This is the one I have. Not sure which ones worse, but if you have both going at you I feel for you.


Live for today
"How to stop worrying and start living". That's actually a book that I have read many times, but never really lived it until I found KTC. That is all I hear since I have been here. Get through this minute, half hour, hour, 12 hours, day and you can do it! Live for today because tomorrow may never come. I know that now and I feel that now in my mind. Make today the best day of your life! Look what you have accomplished, look at your wife, kids, house, memories, look at everything and feel good and proud. If everything was taken away from you do you not still have your health, arms, legs, sight, smell, hands, brain feet.... can you not achieve it again? Thank you my brothers for pointing me in that direction with my mind.


Meds, see you doctor 1st
Before I knew what was happening to me (before I found KTC) I was put on Xanax (low dose) It was prescribed as 1mg per hour every 8 hrs. to counter my anxiety (not anxiety attacks, which I have none) I decided to only take a .5mg (cut pill in half) right before I go to sleep, as that's when my mind has a chance to start thinking. I would only take it once per day because I am fine when I am awake and active. I was suffering some acute anxiety due to the withdrawals of nicotine as your mind has no idea how to react to anything in life since it was deadened by the effects of nicotine. For me that's 30 years of letting nicotine control my emotions and fight or flight tendencies. The wife and I were out to dinner two nights ago and she was looking at me strangely and asked why I was so quite. I could literally feel my brain re-wiring itself on how to react in that situation (sitting, eating in a crowded restaurant) I was learning all over again on how to feel. The food sure as hell tasted a lot better!!!! I find there is no shame in being on meds to help you out until your brain readjusts. I just don't want to depend on them like I did nic! You wouldn't tell a diabetic that he shouldn't be taking insulin would you?

Alternative Meds, see your doctor 1st
Several people on KTC have told me about Natural Vitality Natural Calm and how it will help with insomnia and anxiety (amongst other things). I read all the testimonials on Amazon and went and bought a container at my local GNC. Its a supplement that mainly contains Magnesium (read up on Magnesium) I tried it today and feel very relaxed although it could be that I still feel the effects of the Xanax I took last night at 8pm???? No idea so we'll see how that goes. If it can help replace Xanax the more power to it. The GNC guy also told me about L-Theanine and I bought a bottle of that as well to help with withdrawals dealing in relaxing the mind. Again, all of this is what I have done. Please see you doctor. I haven't take the L-Theanine yet until I see my doctor on Tuesday and ask his opinion, but then again he may not know much about alternative natural supplements as much as he knows about prescribed ones.

Working Out
I started working out to get back into shape (round is shape I don't want to be in) and to control anxiety and withdrawals. I think I over did it at first as all my muscles in my body were twitching one night and it kept me awake. If your not exercising it really helps with the quit, but ease into it if you haven't exercised like me for years!

Reading/Posting on KTC
Post away, share your story, don't feel like a pussy, surrender yourself, and say what you want to say. Even if no one responds on here to what you post you it helps get this shit off your mind and down on paper (or screen) like a journal of your journey without nic. I can guarantee you something you say on KTC will help someone else today, tomorrow, next month or next year. And read people, read as much as you can on this site. I read for two days straight when I found KTC, with tears coming out of my eyes every hour with what I was reading and the relief that I was not alone with what I was going through.


Thank you for listening my brothers...... on to day 29!!!!

Gone Cruising,

Good to hear all these things man. I want to say that I am really proud of you. I know how hard it is to quit this stuff and how hard the withdrawal and the rewire can be learning to live again with out nicotine. To this point, keep dropping this wisdom on us and sharing your journey. It is such an inspiration to us all!

Remember when you're struggling that you're definitely not struggling alone! Chances are someone's going through the exact same shit as you that very second. Learn to handle the stress, anxiety, you've quit nic , I personally think if you can do that, you can accomplish anything! Damn proud of you! Quit on!

Back to work day for Mr Cruisin! Dude you've got this. You do not need nicotine to be good, better, or best at what you do. The people around you that are slaves you are gonna look at with a certain sense of pity today. You are winning.

We are here for you if you need us, but today you are gonna kick ass.

Thanks man!!!

Day 30 and heading back to work today. I feel a bit nervous and on edge, but I believe it's just the nic bitch whispering in my ear that I can't handle it again. Well I can and will!!!! I believe it will be better than sitting around the house for the past two weeks trying to keep my mind occupied all day.

It was two weeks ago today 1/5/16 when I started feeling the nicotine withdrawals big time and it wasn't until 1/10/16 that I realized it was from nicotine when I found this site. That was a scary 5 days for me and today I have more confidence that I will beat the nic bitch with the support I have from my brothers here on KTC. My quit team is the best and all of the vets that have come out to support me are incredible.

Thank you everyone.....I'm off to work!

[worktowin]

I don't know how I could have ever thank all of you enough for coming to my support yesterday.....I just can't, but thank you.

Things are better today and dealing with the turmoil yesterday wasn't as big of a deal as my mind was making it to be. The nic bitch was whispering into my ear that I couldn't handle it. I handled it and I prevailed over you nic bitch!


A few thoughts so far from my quit. Please note I am not a doctor and am not expert, but this is what I have observed from my quit and my thoughts so far of my experience on day 28 of my quit.

Quitters
I believe there are two types of quitters and what we go through. One type is where you're feigning so bad for a dip it drives you nuts, you almost want to chew your arm off due to the cravings. I am grateful that I don't have that feeling or craving. Yet, the other type is the one who goes through serious mental/psychological withdrawals (anxiety/depression/feeling of loss/hopelessness) that lead to physical symptoms (headache, stomach aches, loss of appetite, sweats, insomnia, nausea) This is the one I have. Not sure which ones worse, but if you have both going at you I feel for you.


Live for today
"How to stop worrying and start living". That's actually a book that I have read many times, but never really lived it until I found KTC. That is all I hear since I have been here. Get through this minute, half hour, hour, 12 hours, day and you can do it! Live for today because tomorrow may never come. I know that now and I feel that now in my mind. Make today the best day of your life! Look what you have accomplished, look at your wife, kids, house, memories, look at everything and feel good and proud. If everything was taken away from you do you not still have your health, arms, legs, sight, smell, hands, brain feet.... can you not achieve it again? Thank you my brothers for pointing me in that direction with my mind.


Meds, see you doctor 1st
Before I knew what was happening to me (before I found KTC) I was put on Xanax (low dose) It was prescribed as 1mg per hour every 8 hrs. to counter my anxiety (not anxiety attacks, which I have none) I decided to only take a .5mg (cut pill in half) right before I go to sleep, as that's when my mind has a chance to start thinking. I would only take it once per day because I am fine when I am awake and active. I was suffering some acute anxiety due to the withdrawals of nicotine as your mind has no idea how to react to anything in life since it was deadened by the effects of nicotine. For me that's 30 years of letting nicotine control my emotions and fight or flight tendencies. The wife and I were out to dinner two nights ago and she was looking at me strangely and asked why I was so quite. I could literally feel my brain re-wiring itself on how to react in that situation (sitting, eating in a crowded restaurant) I was learning all over again on how to feel. The food sure as hell tasted a lot better!!!! I find there is no shame in being on meds to help you out until your brain readjusts. I just don't want to depend on them like I did nic! You wouldn't tell a diabetic that he shouldn't be taking insulin would you?

Alternative Meds, see your doctor 1st
Several people on KTC have told me about Natural Vitality Natural Calm and how it will help with insomnia and anxiety (amongst other things). I read all the testimonials on Amazon and went and bought a container at my local GNC. Its a supplement that mainly contains Magnesium (read up on Magnesium) I tried it today and feel very relaxed although it could be that I still feel the effects of the Xanax I took last night at 8pm???? No idea so we'll see how that goes. If it can help replace Xanax the more power to it. The GNC guy also told me about L-Theanine and I bought a bottle of that as well to help with withdrawals dealing in relaxing the mind. Again, all of this is what I have done. Please see you doctor. I haven't take the L-Theanine yet until I see my doctor on Tuesday and ask his opinion, but then again he may not know much about alternative natural supplements as much as he knows about prescribed ones.

Working Out
I started working out to get back into shape (round is shape I don't want to be in) and to control anxiety and withdrawals. I think I over did it at first as all my muscles in my body were twitching one night and it kept me awake. If your not exercising it really helps with the quit, but ease into it if you haven't exercised like me for years!

Reading/Posting on KTC
Post away, share your story, don't feel like a pussy, surrender yourself, and say what you want to say. Even if no one responds on here to what you post you it helps get this shit off your mind and down on paper (or screen) like a journal of your journey without nic. I can guarantee you something you say on KTC will help someone else today, tomorrow, next month or next year. And read people, read as much as you can on this site. I read for two days straight when I found KTC, with tears coming out of my eyes every hour with what I was reading and the relief that I was not alone with what I was going through.


Thank you for listening my brothers...... on to day 29!!!!

Gone Cruising,

Good to hear all these things man. I want to say that I am really proud of you. I know how hard it is to quit this stuff and how hard the withdrawal and the rewire can be learning to live again with out nicotine. To this point, keep dropping this wisdom on us and sharing your journey. It is such an inspiration to us all!

Remember when you're struggling that you're definitely not struggling alone! Chances are someone's going through the exact same shit as you that very second. Learn to handle the stress, anxiety, you've quit nic , I personally think if you can do that, you can accomplish anything! Damn proud of you! Quit on!

Back to work day for Mr Cruisin! Dude you've got this. You do not need nicotine to be good, better, or best at what you do. The people around you that are slaves you are gonna look at with a certain sense of pity today. You are winning.

We are here for you if you need us, but today you are gonna kick ass.

[pab1964]

I don't know how I could have ever thank all of you enough for coming to my support yesterday.....I just can't, but thank you.

Things are better today and dealing with the turmoil yesterday wasn't as big of a deal as my mind was making it to be. The nic bitch was whispering into my ear that I couldn't handle it. I handled it and I prevailed over you nic bitch!


A few thoughts so far from my quit. Please note I am not a doctor and am not expert, but this is what I have observed from my quit and my thoughts so far of my experience on day 28 of my quit.

Quitters
I believe there are two types of quitters and what we go through. One type is where you're feigning so bad for a dip it drives you nuts, you almost want to chew your arm off due to the cravings. I am grateful that I don't have that feeling or craving. Yet, the other type is the one who goes through serious mental/psychological withdrawals (anxiety/depression/feeling of loss/hopelessness) that lead to physical symptoms (headache, stomach aches, loss of appetite, sweats, insomnia, nausea) This is the one I have. Not sure which ones worse, but if you have both going at you I feel for you.


Live for today
"How to stop worrying and start living". That's actually a book that I have read many times, but never really lived it until I found KTC. That is all I hear since I have been here. Get through this minute, half hour, hour, 12 hours, day and you can do it! Live for today because tomorrow may never come. I know that now and I feel that now in my mind. Make today the best day of your life! Look what you have accomplished, look at your wife, kids, house, memories, look at everything and feel good and proud. If everything was taken away from you do you not still have your health, arms, legs, sight, smell, hands, brain feet.... can you not achieve it again? Thank you my brothers for pointing me in that direction with my mind.


Meds, see you doctor 1st
Before I knew what was happening to me (before I found KTC) I was put on Xanax (low dose) It was prescribed as 1mg per hour every 8 hrs. to counter my anxiety (not anxiety attacks, which I have none) I decided to only take a .5mg (cut pill in half) right before I go to sleep, as that's when my mind has a chance to start thinking. I would only take it once per day because I am fine when I am awake and active. I was suffering some acute anxiety due to the withdrawals of nicotine as your mind has no idea how to react to anything in life since it was deadened by the effects of nicotine. For me that's 30 years of letting nicotine control my emotions and fight or flight tendencies. The wife and I were out to dinner two nights ago and she was looking at me strangely and asked why I was so quite. I could literally feel my brain re-wiring itself on how to react in that situation (sitting, eating in a crowded restaurant) I was learning all over again on how to feel. The food sure as hell tasted a lot better!!!! I find there is no shame in being on meds to help you out until your brain readjusts. I just don't want to depend on them like I did nic! You wouldn't tell a diabetic that he shouldn't be taking insulin would you?

Alternative Meds, see your doctor 1st
Several people on KTC have told me about Natural Vitality Natural Calm and how it will help with insomnia and anxiety (amongst other things). I read all the testimonials on Amazon and went and bought a container at my local GNC. Its a supplement that mainly contains Magnesium (read up on Magnesium) I tried it today and feel very relaxed although it could be that I still feel the effects of the Xanax I took last night at 8pm???? No idea so we'll see how that goes. If it can help replace Xanax the more power to it. The GNC guy also told me about L-Theanine and I bought a bottle of that as well to help with withdrawals dealing in relaxing the mind. Again, all of this is what I have done. Please see you doctor. I haven't take the L-Theanine yet until I see my doctor on Tuesday and ask his opinion, but then again he may not know much about alternative natural supplements as much as he knows about prescribed ones.

Working Out
I started working out to get back into shape (round is shape I don't want to be in) and to control anxiety and withdrawals. I think I over did it at first as all my muscles in my body were twitching one night and it kept me awake. If your not exercising it really helps with the quit, but ease into it if you haven't exercised like me for years!

Reading/Posting on KTC
Post away, share your story, don't feel like a pussy, surrender yourself, and say what you want to say. Even if no one responds on here to what you post you it helps get this shit off your mind and down on paper (or screen) like a journal of your journey without nic. I can guarantee you something you say on KTC will help someone else today, tomorrow, next month or next year. And read people, read as much as you can on this site. I read for two days straight when I found KTC, with tears coming out of my eyes every hour with what I was reading and the relief that I was not alone with what I was going through.


Thank you for listening my brothers...... on to day 29!!!!

Gone Cruising,

Good to hear all these things man. I want to say that I am really proud of you. I know how hard it is to quit this stuff and how hard the withdrawal and the rewire can be learning to live again with out nicotine. To this point, keep dropping this wisdom on us and sharing your journey. It is such an inspiration to us all!

Remember when you're struggling that you're definitely not struggling alone! Chances are someone's going through the exact same shit as you that very second. Learn to handle the stress, anxiety, you've quit nic , I personally think if you can do that, you can accomplish anything! Damn proud of you! Quit on!

[redtrain14]

Nice post GC. You are making progress my friend.

[okcguy]

I don't know how I could have ever thank all of you enough for coming to my support yesterday.....I just can't, but thank you.

Things are better today and dealing with the turmoil yesterday wasn't as big of a deal as my mind was making it to be. The nic bitch was whispering into my ear that I couldn't handle it. I handled it and I prevailed over you nic bitch!


A few thoughts so far from my quit. Please note I am not a doctor and am not expert, but this is what I have observed from my quit and my thoughts so far of my experience on day 28 of my quit.

Quitters
I believe there are two types of quitters and what we go through. One type is where you're feigning so bad for a dip it drives you nuts, you almost want to chew your arm off due to the cravings. I am grateful that I don't have that feeling or craving. Yet, the other type is the one who goes through serious mental/psychological withdrawals (anxiety/depression/feeling of loss/hopelessness) that lead to physical symptoms (headache, stomach aches, loss of appetite, sweats, insomnia, nausea) This is the one I have. Not sure which ones worse, but if you have both going at you I feel for you.


Live for today
"How to stop worrying and start living". That's actually a book that I have read many times, but never really lived it until I found KTC. That is all I hear since I have been here. Get through this minute, half hour, hour, 12 hours, day and you can do it! Live for today because tomorrow may never come. I know that now and I feel that now in my mind. Make today the best day of your life! Look what you have accomplished, look at your wife, kids, house, memories, look at everything and feel good and proud. If everything was taken away from you do you not still have your health, arms, legs, sight, smell, hands, brain feet.... can you not achieve it again? Thank you my brothers for pointing me in that direction with my mind.


Meds, see you doctor 1st
Before I knew what was happening to me (before I found KTC) I was put on Xanax (low dose) It was prescribed as 1mg per hour every 8 hrs. to counter my anxiety (not anxiety attacks, which I have none) I decided to only take a .5mg (cut pill in half) right before I go to sleep, as that's when my mind has a chance to start thinking. I would only take it once per day because I am fine when I am awake and active. I was suffering some acute anxiety due to the withdrawals of nicotine as your mind has no idea how to react to anything in life since it was deadened by the effects of nicotine. For me that's 30 years of letting nicotine control my emotions and fight or flight tendencies. The wife and I were out to dinner two nights ago and she was looking at me strangely and asked why I was so quite. I could literally feel my brain re-wiring itself on how to react in that situation (sitting, eating in a crowded restaurant) I was learning all over again on how to feel. The food sure as hell tasted a lot better!!!! I find there is no shame in being on meds to help you out until your brain readjusts. I just don't want to depend on them like I did nic! You wouldn't tell a diabetic that he shouldn't be taking insulin would you?

Alternative Meds, see your doctor 1st
Several people on KTC have told me about Natural Vitality Natural Calm and how it will help with insomnia and anxiety (amongst other things). I read all the testimonials on Amazon and went and bought a container at my local GNC. Its a supplement that mainly contains Magnesium (read up on Magnesium) I tried it today and feel very relaxed although it could be that I still feel the effects of the Xanax I took last night at 8pm???? No idea so we'll see how that goes. If it can help replace Xanax the more power to it. The GNC guy also told me about L-Theanine and I bought a bottle of that as well to help with withdrawals dealing in relaxing the mind. Again, all of this is what I have done. Please see you doctor. I haven't take the L-Theanine yet until I see my doctor on Tuesday and ask his opinion, but then again he may not know much about alternative natural supplements as much as he knows about prescribed ones.

Working Out
I started working out to get back into shape (round is shape I don't want to be in) and to control anxiety and withdrawals. I think I over did it at first as all my muscles in my body were twitching one night and it kept me awake. If your not exercising it really helps with the quit, but ease into it if you haven't exercised like me for years!

Reading/Posting on KTC
Post away, share your story, don't feel like a pussy, surrender yourself, and say what you want to say. Even if no one responds on here to what you post you it helps get this shit off your mind and down on paper (or screen) like a journal of your journey without nic. I can guarantee you something you say on KTC will help someone else today, tomorrow, next month or next year. And read people, read as much as you can on this site. I read for two days straight when I found KTC, with tears coming out of my eyes every hour with what I was reading and the relief that I was not alone with what I was going through.


Thank you for listening my brothers...... on to day 29!!!!

Gone Cruising,

Good to hear all these things man. I want to say that I am really proud of you. I know how hard it is to quit this stuff and how hard the withdrawal and the rewire can be learning to live again with out nicotine. To this point, keep dropping this wisdom on us and sharing your journey. It is such an inspiration to us all!