When shit gets rough

[DW3]

Day 225

The last 2 weeks for me have been a rollercoaster ride to say the least. In the midst of a divorce, turmoil at work and of course the retreads here, all of which had me looking inward. What could I have done, what can I do, how can I be different? Answers which use to be so easy all of a sudden, I'm second guessing myself. Did I make the correct decision ect ect ect...

Well, it all comes full circle back to ktc and my quit. My quit brought me here, without KTC I would not be quit. Without KTC I wouldn't have re-discovered working out and discovering endurance running. Without ktc, I wouldn't have met some kickass people who not only take time out of their day to check on my quit, but do check on me personally. Most of these people I haven't even met. The divorce is what it is, and I'm not going back to that, work is currently being ironed out. The retreads, well they seem to be coming back a dime a dozen. Key phrase there coming back. I know when I am here, I am quit, I know that when I am here, I am bettering myself as a person. Why would anyone mess with that? They would have to be completely stupid, right? Yes, that's the simple answer.

They are, when the coin and milestone came in, the first thing I noticed was the "Botherhood, accountability and success". Always the motto here, but really, as bad as this sounds, I'm just starting to understand this. Brotherhood, men/women you've never met before willing to drop everything to help your ass out. Whether they have reached out to you or not, every person (that I have ran into so far) would do this. Accountability, well that's the easy one, exchanging numbers posting roll ect... Success. Success, is the end result we are all searching for. When have you won? I am on day 225, and I still don't feel like I've won this war. Each day is a battle and I have won 225 days in a row, but still, there is no end in sight. Success is what I feel when I am here, success is not using any nicotene today. Because of this, I am not leaving ktc, I owe this site too much. I may step back, but I will not leave. And, that, I believe is my success.

Sorry for my rambling and horrible grammEr and speelin', quit on

You've been a strong since day 1 but have become a real stud as time has passed. Had no idea about the divorce and I hope it ends up being the right thing for you. Proud to be and FUer with you Bruce.

[Bruce]

Success is what I feel when I am here, success is not using any nicotene today. Because of this, I am not leaving ktc, I owe this site too much. I may step back, but I will not leave. And, that, I believe is my success.

EXCELLENT!!

Proud to be quit with you !!

I'm sorry Greg, I missed this, thank you! That was the original motivation for my post...as you can see, it got off topic just a bit. haha

[mikegooch]

Day 225

  The last 2 weeks for me have been a rollercoaster ride to say the least. In the midst of a divorce, turmoil at work and of course the retreads here, all of which had me looking inward. What could I have done, what can I do, how can I be different? Answers which use to be so easy all of a sudden, I'm second guessing myself. Did I make the correct decision ect ect ect...

Well, it all comes full circle back to ktc and my quit. My quit brought me here, without KTC I would not be quit. Without KTC I wouldn't have re-discovered working out and discovering endurance running. Without ktc, I wouldn't have met some kickass people who not only take time out of their day to check on my quit, but do check on me personally. Most of these people I haven't even met. The divorce is what it is, and I'm not going back to that, work is currently being ironed out. The retreads, well they seem to be coming back a dime a dozen. Key phrase there coming back. I know when I am here, I am quit, I know that when I am here, I am bettering myself as a person. Why would anyone mess with that? They would have to be completely stupid, right? Yes, that's the simple answer.

They are, when the coin and milestone came in, the first thing I noticed was the "Botherhood, accountability and success". Always the motto here, but really, as bad as this sounds, I'm just starting to understand this. Brotherhood, men/women you've never met before willing to drop everything to help your ass out. Whether they have reached out to you or not, every person (that I have ran into so far) would do this. Accountability, well that's the easy one, exchanging numbers posting roll ect... Success. Success, is the end result we are all searching for. When have you won? I am on day 225, and I still don't feel like I've won this war. Each day is a battle and I have won 225 days in a row, but still, there is no end in sight. Success is what I feel when I am here, success is not using any nicotene today. Because of this, I am not leaving ktc, I owe this site too much. I may step back, but I will not leave. And, that, I believe is my success.

Sorry for my rambling and horrible grammEr and speelin', quit on

I know it's cheesy, but I always break out the John Wooden quotes for moments like this:

"Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best you are capable of becoming."

Re-treads are not successful because they have not done their best. They are satisfied by the status quo and eventually become complacent. Their only motivation is experiencing actual failure. This recent epidemic of re-treads has forced me to reconsider where I lend my support. Repeat cavers bring us all down. They reek of failure and allow such thoughts to creep into our minds. But we are not them Bruce. We are successful for the reasons you've stated and based on Coach Wooden's definition of success.

I'm sorry to hear about your divorce, it certainly comes as a surprise to this quitter. I'm proud to be quit with you today brother! You know I'm here if you need me.

We Quit Like Fuck.

As a retread, I take offense to calling those that return "retreads".

As CoachSteve's signature says, "A wise man learns from the mistakes of others, a foolish man his own.'" I've used this many times, but I've added a new item: A dumbass never learns, and keeps repeating his same mistakes.

As a retread, I can never be considered a wise man. I was handed the keys to freedom here, and I never attached them to my keychain. I put them in m pocket thinking they'd be there later when I needed them. Eventually, I stopped carrying them and put them in my junk drawer at home. And when I needed them, I couldn't find them.

I was stupid, and I made a mistake.

However, as a retread, I can look back at my mistakes objectively and draw inspiration from them. It is my scarlet letter I carry. I push myself harder because I want to be better. I have to earn every ounce of respect I carry, and I work at that daily. At the end of the day, I cannot leave anything on the table with my quit. I have to give everything I've got plus some.

Returning quitters are not retreads. They have to earn a "Retread" label. They have to prove to me that this time is different. It's real easy to pay the right lip service early in a stoppage, but they have to live those words. They have to own this quit. They have to own their past. They have to own their mistakes and their accomplishments.

I am a retread, and I'm damn proud to be a retread. Don't soil our names by labeling every returning "quitter" as a retread.

Fair enough. I see your boggle Recyclepanel. You are truly an exception, but only because you changed your entire perspective and dedicated yourself to be the best quitter you could be. There are others like you, who have returned as cavers and can now be referred to as successful "re-treads." Unfortunately, people like you are the exception and not the rule.

I'm with you on this one. I'll just refer to them as cavers until they earn the title of "re-tread."

Personally, I'll call a returning caver whatever I want. WP, you're one badass retread, no doubt man, but a retread none the less.

Coach-thanks lover, this rambling was more or less me wanting to say hey, I've just experienced all the normal bs people say they caved for and rocked it like a boss, because of ktc.

In closing, I'm quitting like fuck today

There is no "caver" or "re-tread" in my vocabulary - just quit or not quit. WP is quit. So am I.

Day 225

  The last 2 weeks for me have been a rollercoaster ride to say the least. In the midst of a divorce, turmoil at work and of course the retreads here, all of which had me looking inward. What could I have done, what can I do, how can I be different? Answers which use to be so easy all of a sudden, I'm second guessing myself. Did I make the correct decision ect ect ect...

Well, it all comes full circle back to ktc and my quit. My quit brought me here, without KTC I would not be quit. Without KTC I wouldn't have re-discovered working out and discovering endurance running. Without ktc, I wouldn't have met some kickass people who not only take time out of their day to check on my quit, but do check on me personally. Most of these people I haven't even met. The divorce is what it is, and I'm not going back to that, work is currently being ironed out. The retreads, well they seem to be coming back a dime a dozen. Key phrase there coming back. I know when I am here, I am quit, I know that when I am here, I am bettering myself as a person. Why would anyone mess with that? They would have to be completely stupid, right? Yes, that's the simple answer.

They are, when the coin and milestone came in, the first thing I noticed was the "Botherhood, accountability and success". Always the motto here, but really, as bad as this sounds, I'm just starting to understand this. Brotherhood, men/women you've never met before willing to drop everything to help your ass out. Whether they have reached out to you or not, every person (that I have ran into so far) would do this. Accountability, well that's the easy one, exchanging numbers posting roll ect... Success. Success, is the end result we are all searching for. When have you won? I am on day 225, and I still don't feel like I've won this war. Each day is a battle and I have won 225 days in a row, but still, there is no end in sight. Success is what I feel when I am here, success is not using any nicotene today. Because of this, I am not leaving ktc, I owe this site too much. I may step back, but I will not leave. And, that, I believe is my success.

Sorry for my rambling and horrible grammEr and speelin', quit on

I know it's cheesy, but I always break out the John Wooden quotes for moments like this:

"Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best you are capable of becoming."

Re-treads are not successful because they have not done their best. They are satisfied by the status quo and eventually become complacent. Their only motivation is experiencing actual failure. This recent epidemic of re-treads has forced me to reconsider where I lend my support. Repeat cavers bring us all down. They reek of failure and allow such thoughts to creep into our minds. But we are not them Bruce. We are successful for the reasons you've stated and based on Coach Wooden's definition of success.

I'm sorry to hear about your divorce, it certainly comes as a surprise to this quitter. I'm proud to be quit with you today brother! You know I'm here if you need me.

We Quit Like Fuck.

As a retread, I take offense to calling those that return "retreads".

As CoachSteve's signature says, "A wise man learns from the mistakes of others, a foolish man his own.'" I've used this many times, but I've added a new item: A dumbass never learns, and keeps repeating his same mistakes.

As a retread, I can never be considered a wise man. I was handed the keys to freedom here, and I never attached them to my keychain. I put them in m pocket thinking they'd be there later when I needed them. Eventually, I stopped carrying them and put them in my junk drawer at home. And when I needed them, I couldn't find them.

I was stupid, and I made a mistake.

However, as a retread, I can look back at my mistakes objectively and draw inspiration from them. It is my scarlet letter I carry. I push myself harder because I want to be better. I have to earn every ounce of respect I carry, and I work at that daily. At the end of the day, I cannot leave anything on the table with my quit. I have to give everything I've got plus some.

Returning quitters are not retreads. They have to earn a "Retread" label. They have to prove to me that this time is different. It's real easy to pay the right lip service early in a stoppage, but they have to live those words. They have to own this quit. They have to own their past. They have to own their mistakes and their accomplishments.

I am a retread, and I'm damn proud to be a retread. Don't soil our names by labeling every returning "quitter" as a retread.

Fair enough. I see your boggle Recyclepanel. You are truly an exception, but only because you changed your entire perspective and dedicated yourself to be the best quitter you could be. There are others like you, who have returned as cavers and can now be referred to as successful "re-treads." Unfortunately, people like you are the exception and not the rule.

I'm with you on this one. I'll just refer to them as cavers until they earn the title of "re-tread."

Personally, I'll call a returning caver whatever I want. WP, you're one badass retread, no doubt man, but a retread none the less.

Coach-thanks lover, this rambling was more or less me wanting to say hey, I've just experienced all the normal bs people say they caved for and rocked it like a boss, because of ktc.

In closing, I'm quitting like fuck today

There is no "caver" or "re-tread" in my vocabulary - just quit or not quit. WP is quit. So am I.

Guys here's where I am today.. I don't really know The fella here that made the original post.. I guess thats the guy we rally around here.. We can all post some serios shit.. One about this.. The other about that.. What is our primary purpose here? I think I've missed that somewhere and probably need to re-read the entire site.. I am certain we have a primary purpose which will be to support one another and no matter what don't dip or chew or use!! 23 days into this now..no matter what you say or what I say or what we all proclaim.. If I am going to use.. I am going to use.. Nothing or nobody is going to stop me including me.. You.. Or this site.. EXCEPT.... GOD! Has to be.. That's The only way I can explain it.. So I do thank everybody here for allowing that power to work through them..without it? I'm toast!  Dude.. obviously some power is working in your life too.. 225 days not using tobacco is HUGE.. Massive actually.. With everything you got going on.. That same power will help you through everything else as well.. Life sucks sometimes I assure dip will not make it better..

[Notdeadyet]

Day 225

  The last 2 weeks for me have been a rollercoaster ride to say the least. In the midst of a divorce, turmoil at work and of course the retreads here, all of which had me looking inward. What could I have done, what can I do, how can I be different? Answers which use to be so easy all of a sudden, I'm second guessing myself. Did I make the correct decision ect ect ect...

Well, it all comes full circle back to ktc and my quit. My quit brought me here, without KTC I would not be quit. Without KTC I wouldn't have re-discovered working out and discovering endurance running. Without ktc, I wouldn't have met some kickass people who not only take time out of their day to check on my quit, but do check on me personally. Most of these people I haven't even met. The divorce is what it is, and I'm not going back to that, work is currently being ironed out. The retreads, well they seem to be coming back a dime a dozen. Key phrase there coming back. I know when I am here, I am quit, I know that when I am here, I am bettering myself as a person. Why would anyone mess with that? They would have to be completely stupid, right? Yes, that's the simple answer.

They are, when the coin and milestone came in, the first thing I noticed was the "Botherhood, accountability and success". Always the motto here, but really, as bad as this sounds, I'm just starting to understand this. Brotherhood, men/women you've never met before willing to drop everything to help your ass out. Whether they have reached out to you or not, every person (that I have ran into so far) would do this. Accountability, well that's the easy one, exchanging numbers posting roll ect... Success. Success, is the end result we are all searching for. When have you won? I am on day 225, and I still don't feel like I've won this war. Each day is a battle and I have won 225 days in a row, but still, there is no end in sight. Success is what I feel when I am here, success is not using any nicotene today. Because of this, I am not leaving ktc, I owe this site too much. I may step back, but I will not leave. And, that, I believe is my success.

Sorry for my rambling and horrible grammEr and speelin', quit on

I know it's cheesy, but I always break out the John Wooden quotes for moments like this:

"Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best you are capable of becoming."

Re-treads are not successful because they have not done their best. They are satisfied by the status quo and eventually become complacent. Their only motivation is experiencing actual failure. This recent epidemic of re-treads has forced me to reconsider where I lend my support. Repeat cavers bring us all down. They reek of failure and allow such thoughts to creep into our minds. But we are not them Bruce. We are successful for the reasons you've stated and based on Coach Wooden's definition of success.

I'm sorry to hear about your divorce, it certainly comes as a surprise to this quitter. I'm proud to be quit with you today brother! You know I'm here if you need me.

We Quit Like Fuck.

As a retread, I take offense to calling those that return "retreads".

As CoachSteve's signature says, "A wise man learns from the mistakes of others, a foolish man his own.'" I've used this many times, but I've added a new item: A dumbass never learns, and keeps repeating his same mistakes.

As a retread, I can never be considered a wise man. I was handed the keys to freedom here, and I never attached them to my keychain. I put them in m pocket thinking they'd be there later when I needed them. Eventually, I stopped carrying them and put them in my junk drawer at home. And when I needed them, I couldn't find them.

I was stupid, and I made a mistake.

However, as a retread, I can look back at my mistakes objectively and draw inspiration from them. It is my scarlet letter I carry. I push myself harder because I want to be better. I have to earn every ounce of respect I carry, and I work at that daily. At the end of the day, I cannot leave anything on the table with my quit. I have to give everything I've got plus some.

Returning quitters are not retreads. They have to earn a "Retread" label. They have to prove to me that this time is different. It's real easy to pay the right lip service early in a stoppage, but they have to live those words. They have to own this quit. They have to own their past. They have to own their mistakes and their accomplishments.

I am a retread, and I'm damn proud to be a retread. Don't soil our names by labeling every returning "quitter" as a retread.

Fair enough. I see your boggle Recyclepanel. You are truly an exception, but only because you changed your entire perspective and dedicated yourself to be the best quitter you could be. There are others like you, who have returned as cavers and can now be referred to as successful "re-treads." Unfortunately, people like you are the exception and not the rule.

I'm with you on this one. I'll just refer to them as cavers until they earn the title of "re-tread."

Personally, I'll call a returning caver whatever I want. WP, you're one badass retread, no doubt man, but a retread none the less.

Coach-thanks lover, this rambling was more or less me wanting to say hey, I've just experienced all the normal bs people say they caved for and rocked it like a boss, because of ktc.

In closing, I'm quitting like fuck today

There is no "caver" or "re-tread" in my vocabulary - just quit or not quit. WP is quit. So am I.

[Bruce]

Day 225

  The last 2 weeks for me have been a rollercoaster ride to say the least. In the midst of a divorce, turmoil at work and of course the retreads here, all of which had me looking inward. What could I have done, what can I do, how can I be different? Answers which use to be so easy all of a sudden, I'm second guessing myself. Did I make the correct decision ect ect ect...

Well, it all comes full circle back to ktc and my quit. My quit brought me here, without KTC I would not be quit. Without KTC I wouldn't have re-discovered working out and discovering endurance running. Without ktc, I wouldn't have met some kickass people who not only take time out of their day to check on my quit, but do check on me personally. Most of these people I haven't even met. The divorce is what it is, and I'm not going back to that, work is currently being ironed out. The retreads, well they seem to be coming back a dime a dozen. Key phrase there coming back. I know when I am here, I am quit, I know that when I am here, I am bettering myself as a person. Why would anyone mess with that? They would have to be completely stupid, right? Yes, that's the simple answer.

They are, when the coin and milestone came in, the first thing I noticed was the "Botherhood, accountability and success". Always the motto here, but really, as bad as this sounds, I'm just starting to understand this. Brotherhood, men/women you've never met before willing to drop everything to help your ass out. Whether they have reached out to you or not, every person (that I have ran into so far) would do this. Accountability, well that's the easy one, exchanging numbers posting roll ect... Success. Success, is the end result we are all searching for. When have you won? I am on day 225, and I still don't feel like I've won this war. Each day is a battle and I have won 225 days in a row, but still, there is no end in sight. Success is what I feel when I am here, success is not using any nicotene today. Because of this, I am not leaving ktc, I owe this site too much. I may step back, but I will not leave. And, that, I believe is my success.

Sorry for my rambling and horrible grammEr and speelin', quit on

I know it's cheesy, but I always break out the John Wooden quotes for moments like this:

"Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best you are capable of becoming."

Re-treads are not successful because they have not done their best. They are satisfied by the status quo and eventually become complacent. Their only motivation is experiencing actual failure. This recent epidemic of re-treads has forced me to reconsider where I lend my support. Repeat cavers bring us all down. They reek of failure and allow such thoughts to creep into our minds. But we are not them Bruce. We are successful for the reasons you've stated and based on Coach Wooden's definition of success.

I'm sorry to hear about your divorce, it certainly comes as a surprise to this quitter. I'm proud to be quit with you today brother! You know I'm here if you need me.

We Quit Like Fuck.

As a retread, I take offense to calling those that return "retreads".

As CoachSteve's signature says, "A wise man learns from the mistakes of others, a foolish man his own.'" I've used this many times, but I've added a new item: A dumbass never learns, and keeps repeating his same mistakes.

As a retread, I can never be considered a wise man. I was handed the keys to freedom here, and I never attached them to my keychain. I put them in m pocket thinking they'd be there later when I needed them. Eventually, I stopped carrying them and put them in my junk drawer at home. And when I needed them, I couldn't find them.

I was stupid, and I made a mistake.

However, as a retread, I can look back at my mistakes objectively and draw inspiration from them. It is my scarlet letter I carry. I push myself harder because I want to be better. I have to earn every ounce of respect I carry, and I work at that daily. At the end of the day, I cannot leave anything on the table with my quit. I have to give everything I've got plus some.

Returning quitters are not retreads. They have to earn a "Retread" label. They have to prove to me that this time is different. It's real easy to pay the right lip service early in a stoppage, but they have to live those words. They have to own this quit. They have to own their past. They have to own their mistakes and their accomplishments.

I am a retread, and I'm damn proud to be a retread. Don't soil our names by labeling every returning "quitter" as a retread.

Fair enough. I see your boggle Recyclepanel. You are truly an exception, but only because you changed your entire perspective and dedicated yourself to be the best quitter you could be. There are others like you, who have returned as cavers and can now be referred to as successful "re-treads." Unfortunately, people like you are the exception and not the rule.

I'm with you on this one. I'll just refer to them as cavers until they earn the title of "re-tread."

Personally, I'll call a returning caver whatever I want. WP, you're one badass retread, no doubt man, but a retread none the less.

Coach-thanks lover, this rambling was more or less me wanting to say hey, I've just experienced all the normal bs people say they caved for and rocked it like a boss, because of ktc.

In closing, I'm quitting like fuck today

[Greg5280]

Success is what I feel when I am here, success is not using any nicotene today. Because of this, I am not leaving ktc, I owe this site too much. I may step back, but I will not leave. And, that, I believe is my success.

EXCELLENT!!

Proud to be quit with you !!

[Coach Steve]

Day 225

  The last 2 weeks for me have been a rollercoaster ride to say the least. In the midst of a divorce, turmoil at work and of course the retreads here, all of which had me looking inward. What could I have done, what can I do, how can I be different? Answers which use to be so easy all of a sudden, I'm second guessing myself. Did I make the correct decision ect ect ect...

Well, it all comes full circle back to ktc and my quit. My quit brought me here, without KTC I would not be quit. Without KTC I wouldn't have re-discovered working out and discovering endurance running. Without ktc, I wouldn't have met some kickass people who not only take time out of their day to check on my quit, but do check on me personally. Most of these people I haven't even met. The divorce is what it is, and I'm not going back to that, work is currently being ironed out. The retreads, well they seem to be coming back a dime a dozen. Key phrase there coming back. I know when I am here, I am quit, I know that when I am here, I am bettering myself as a person. Why would anyone mess with that? They would have to be completely stupid, right? Yes, that's the simple answer.

They are, when the coin and milestone came in, the first thing I noticed was the "Botherhood, accountability and success". Always the motto here, but really, as bad as this sounds, I'm just starting to understand this. Brotherhood, men/women you've never met before willing to drop everything to help your ass out. Whether they have reached out to you or not, every person (that I have ran into so far) would do this. Accountability, well that's the easy one, exchanging numbers posting roll ect... Success. Success, is the end result we are all searching for. When have you won? I am on day 225, and I still don't feel like I've won this war. Each day is a battle and I have won 225 days in a row, but still, there is no end in sight. Success is what I feel when I am here, success is not using any nicotene today. Because of this, I am not leaving ktc, I owe this site too much. I may step back, but I will not leave. And, that, I believe is my success.

Sorry for my rambling and horrible grammEr and speelin', quit on

I know it's cheesy, but I always break out the John Wooden quotes for moments like this:

"Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best you are capable of becoming."

Re-treads are not successful because they have not done their best. They are satisfied by the status quo and eventually become complacent. Their only motivation is experiencing actual failure. This recent epidemic of re-treads has forced me to reconsider where I lend my support. Repeat cavers bring us all down. They reek of failure and allow such thoughts to creep into our minds. But we are not them Bruce. We are successful for the reasons you've stated and based on Coach Wooden's definition of success.

I'm sorry to hear about your divorce, it certainly comes as a surprise to this quitter. I'm proud to be quit with you today brother! You know I'm here if you need me.

We Quit Like Fuck.

As a retread, I take offense to calling those that return "retreads".

As CoachSteve's signature says, "A wise man learns from the mistakes of others, a foolish man his own.'" I've used this many times, but I've added a new item: A dumbass never learns, and keeps repeating his same mistakes.

As a retread, I can never be considered a wise man. I was handed the keys to freedom here, and I never attached them to my keychain. I put them in m pocket thinking they'd be there later when I needed them. Eventually, I stopped carrying them and put them in my junk drawer at home. And when I needed them, I couldn't find them.

I was stupid, and I made a mistake.

However, as a retread, I can look back at my mistakes objectively and draw inspiration from them. It is my scarlet letter I carry. I push myself harder because I want to be better. I have to earn every ounce of respect I carry, and I work at that daily. At the end of the day, I cannot leave anything on the table with my quit. I have to give everything I've got plus some.

Returning quitters are not retreads. They have to earn a "Retread" label. They have to prove to me that this time is different. It's real easy to pay the right lip service early in a stoppage, but they have to live those words. They have to own this quit. They have to own their past. They have to own their mistakes and their accomplishments.

I am a retread, and I'm damn proud to be a retread. Don't soil our names by labeling every returning "quitter" as a retread.

Fair enough. I see your boggle Recyclepanel. You are truly an exception, but only because you changed your entire perspective and dedicated yourself to be the best quitter you could be. There are others like you, who have returned as cavers and can now be referred to as successful "re-treads." Unfortunately, people like you are the exception and not the rule.

I'm with you on this one. I'll just refer to them as cavers until they earn the title of "re-tread."

[wastepanel]

Day 225

  The last 2 weeks for me have been a rollercoaster ride to say the least. In the midst of a divorce, turmoil at work and of course the retreads here, all of which had me looking inward. What could I have done, what can I do, how can I be different? Answers which use to be so easy all of a sudden, I'm second guessing myself. Did I make the correct decision ect ect ect...

Well, it all comes full circle back to ktc and my quit. My quit brought me here, without KTC I would not be quit. Without KTC I wouldn't have re-discovered working out and discovering endurance running. Without ktc, I wouldn't have met some kickass people who not only take time out of their day to check on my quit, but do check on me personally. Most of these people I haven't even met. The divorce is what it is, and I'm not going back to that, work is currently being ironed out. The retreads, well they seem to be coming back a dime a dozen. Key phrase there coming back. I know when I am here, I am quit, I know that when I am here, I am bettering myself as a person. Why would anyone mess with that? They would have to be completely stupid, right? Yes, that's the simple answer.

They are, when the coin and milestone came in, the first thing I noticed was the "Botherhood, accountability and success". Always the motto here, but really, as bad as this sounds, I'm just starting to understand this. Brotherhood, men/women you've never met before willing to drop everything to help your ass out. Whether they have reached out to you or not, every person (that I have ran into so far) would do this. Accountability, well that's the easy one, exchanging numbers posting roll ect... Success. Success, is the end result we are all searching for. When have you won? I am on day 225, and I still don't feel like I've won this war. Each day is a battle and I have won 225 days in a row, but still, there is no end in sight. Success is what I feel when I am here, success is not using any nicotene today. Because of this, I am not leaving ktc, I owe this site too much. I may step back, but I will not leave. And, that, I believe is my success.

Sorry for my rambling and horrible grammEr and speelin', quit on

I know it's cheesy, but I always break out the John Wooden quotes for moments like this:

"Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best you are capable of becoming."

Re-treads are not successful because they have not done their best. They are satisfied by the status quo and eventually become complacent. Their only motivation is experiencing actual failure. This recent epidemic of re-treads has forced me to reconsider where I lend my support. Repeat cavers bring us all down. They reek of failure and allow such thoughts to creep into our minds. But we are not them Bruce. We are successful for the reasons you've stated and based on Coach Wooden's definition of success.

I'm sorry to hear about your divorce, it certainly comes as a surprise to this quitter. I'm proud to be quit with you today brother! You know I'm here if you need me.

We Quit Like Fuck.

As a retread, I take offense to calling those that return "retreads".

As CoachSteve's signature says, "A wise man learns from the mistakes of others, a foolish man his own.'" I've used this many times, but I've added a new item: A dumbass never learns, and keeps repeating his same mistakes.

As a retread, I can never be considered a wise man. I was handed the keys to freedom here, and I never attached them to my keychain. I put them in m pocket thinking they'd be there later when I needed them. Eventually, I stopped carrying them and put them in my junk drawer at home. And when I needed them, I couldn't find them.

I was stupid, and I made a mistake.

However, as a retread, I can look back at my mistakes objectively and draw inspiration from them. It is my scarlet letter I carry. I push myself harder because I want to be better. I have to earn every ounce of respect I carry, and I work at that daily. At the end of the day, I cannot leave anything on the table with my quit. I have to give everything I've got plus some.

Returning quitters are not retreads. They have to earn a "Retread" label. They have to prove to me that this time is different. It's real easy to pay the right lip service early in a stoppage, but they have to live those words. They have to own this quit. They have to own their past. They have to own their mistakes and their accomplishments.

I am a retread, and I'm damn proud to be a retread. Don't soil our names by labeling every returning "quitter" as a retread.

[Coach Steve]

Day 225

  The last 2 weeks for me have been a rollercoaster ride to say the least. In the midst of a divorce, turmoil at work and of course the retreads here, all of which had me looking inward. What could I have done, what can I do, how can I be different? Answers which use to be so easy all of a sudden, I'm second guessing myself. Did I make the correct decision ect ect ect...

Well, it all comes full circle back to ktc and my quit. My quit brought me here, without KTC I would not be quit. Without KTC I wouldn't have re-discovered working out and discovering endurance running. Without ktc, I wouldn't have met some kickass people who not only take time out of their day to check on my quit, but do check on me personally. Most of these people I haven't even met. The divorce is what it is, and I'm not going back to that, work is currently being ironed out. The retreads, well they seem to be coming back a dime a dozen. Key phrase there coming back. I know when I am here, I am quit, I know that when I am here, I am bettering myself as a person. Why would anyone mess with that? They would have to be completely stupid, right? Yes, that's the simple answer.

They are, when the coin and milestone came in, the first thing I noticed was the "Botherhood, accountability and success". Always the motto here, but really, as bad as this sounds, I'm just starting to understand this. Brotherhood, men/women you've never met before willing to drop everything to help your ass out. Whether they have reached out to you or not, every person (that I have ran into so far) would do this. Accountability, well that's the easy one, exchanging numbers posting roll ect... Success. Success, is the end result we are all searching for. When have you won? I am on day 225, and I still don't feel like I've won this war. Each day is a battle and I have won 225 days in a row, but still, there is no end in sight. Success is what I feel when I am here, success is not using any nicotene today. Because of this, I am not leaving ktc, I owe this site too much. I may step back, but I will not leave. And, that, I believe is my success.

Sorry for my rambling and horrible grammEr and speelin', quit on

I know it's cheesy, but I always break out the John Wooden quotes for moments like this:

"Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best you are capable of becoming."

Re-treads are not successful because they have not done their best. They are satisfied by the status quo and eventually become complacent. Their only motivation is experiencing actual failure. This recent epidemic of re-treads has forced me to reconsider where I lend my support. Repeat cavers bring us all down. They reek of failure and allow such thoughts to creep into our minds. But we are not them Bruce. We are successful for the reasons you've stated and based on Coach Wooden's definition of success.

I'm sorry to hear about your divorce, it certainly comes as a surprise to this quitter. I'm proud to be quit with you today brother! You know I'm here if you need me.

We Quit Like Fuck.

[Bruce]

Day 225

The last 2 weeks for me have been a rollercoaster ride to say the least. In the midst of a divorce, turmoil at work and of course the retreads here, all of which had me looking inward. What could I have done, what can I do, how can I be different? Answers which use to be so easy all of a sudden, I'm second guessing myself. Did I make the correct decision ect ect ect...

Well, it all comes full circle back to ktc and my quit. My quit brought me here, without KTC I would not be quit. Without KTC I wouldn't have re-discovered working out and discovering endurance running. Without ktc, I wouldn't have met some kickass people who not only take time out of their day to check on my quit, but do check on me personally. Most of these people I haven't even met. The divorce is what it is, and I'm not going back to that, work is currently being ironed out. The retreads, well they seem to be coming back a dime a dozen. Key phrase there coming back. I know when I am here, I am quit, I know that when I am here, I am bettering myself as a person. Why would anyone mess with that? They would have to be completely stupid, right? Yes, that's the simple answer.

They are, when the coin and milestone came in, the first thing I noticed was the "Botherhood, accountability and success". Always the motto here, but really, as bad as this sounds, I'm just starting to understand this. Brotherhood, men/women you've never met before willing to drop everything to help your ass out. Whether they have reached out to you or not, every person (that I have ran into so far) would do this. Accountability, well that's the easy one, exchanging numbers posting roll ect... Success. Success, is the end result we are all searching for. When have you won? I am on day 225, and I still don't feel like I've won this war. Each day is a battle and I have won 225 days in a row, but still, there is no end in sight. Success is what I feel when I am here, success is not using any nicotene today. Because of this, I am not leaving ktc, I owe this site too much. I may step back, but I will not leave. And, that, I believe is my success.

Sorry for my rambling and horrible grammEr and speelin', quit on

[Bruce]

From Eor2012 in September'12, wanted to put this in my intros so it wont get lost

Today I hit day 7... That means 7 days ago I quit... I didn't say I want to quit, I didn't think I quit, I didn't decide to quit, I didn't say I want to think I decided to quit, I fucking quit..

I used to dip when I was at work and when I wasn't around other people in public because I didn't want to look like a "hick" or just be gross. Now I walk around everywhere with a giant wad of seed in my mouth because I would rather look like a fucking chipmunk for the next 93 days... fuck it, forever... then walk around with half of my face... You need to evaluate your reasons to quit, then just man up and do it...

We are here to support each other but I am a firm believer in this... Help those who cannot help themselves, not those who choose not to.

[Wt57]

I'm gonna go ahead in vent, and since this is my intro...its happening here.

It's been a long fuckin day to say the least at work. I've got a splitting head ache and I'm starving to cap it...I am even currently breaking my diet and currently stuffing my face full of whataburger. I text my wife when I get off, ask her what's for supper, she replied to pick something up (meaning nothin).  Ask her why , she replies simply "church, mom". Fuckin great my mother in law once again has invited herself over, and to fill you in, to say I dislike my mother inlaw is an understatement. So I get home and hear the piano goin, walk in its her goin at it, fuck its 1030 and my wife has to get up at 5, fuck I just got off and have a splitting headache, this bitch must play the damn piano. I don't say anything just walk out, drive around thinkin...

Man, normally I'd dip the hell outta some grizzly right now, but I didn't feel the urge to do so, so I just drove my fat ass to whataburger...and here I sit, gettin full, but not dipping! Let us all pray when I get home, the bitch will be gone!

Prayer not answered

Bruce she ain't worth going to prison for! Don't kill her and stay quit, tall order but you can do it, you're my mentor, 1st to straighten me out. Ive got one too (mother inlaw) might consider trading, let's compare!

[Bruce]

I'm gonna go ahead in vent, and since this is my intro...its happening here.

It's been a long fuckin day to say the least at work. I've got a splitting head ache and I'm starving to cap it...I am even currently breaking my diet and currently stuffing my face full of whataburger. I text my wife when I get off, ask her what's for supper, she replied to pick something up (meaning nothin). Ask her why , she replies simply "church, mom". Fuckin great my mother in law once again has invited herself over, and to fill you in, to say I dislike my mother inlaw is an understatement. So I get home and hear the piano goin, walk in its her goin at it, fuck its 1030 and my wife has to get up at 5, fuck I just got off and have a splitting headache, this bitch must play the damn piano. I don't say anything just walk out, drive around thinkin...

Man, normally I'd dip the hell outta some grizzly right now, but I didn't feel the urge to do so, so I just drove my fat ass to whataburger...and here I sit, gettin full, but not dipping! Let us all pray when I get home, the bitch will be gone!

Prayer not answered

[Bruce]

I'm gonna go ahead in vent, and since this is my intro...its happening here.

It's been a long fuckin day to say the least at work. I've got a splitting head ache and I'm starving to cap it...I am even currently breaking my diet and currently stuffing my face full of whataburger. I text my wife when I get off, ask her what's for supper, she replied to pick something up (meaning nothin). Ask her why , she replies simply "church, mom". Fuckin great my mother in law once again has invited herself over, and to fill you in, to say I dislike my mother inlaw is an understatement. So I get home and hear the piano goin, walk in its her goin at it, fuck its 1030 and my wife has to get up at 5, fuck I just got off and have a splitting headache, this bitch must play the damn piano. I don't say anything just walk out, drive around thinkin...

Man, normally I'd dip the hell outta some grizzly right now, but I didn't feel the urge to do so, so I just drove my fat ass to whataburger...and here I sit, gettin full, but not dipping! Let us all pray when I get home, the bitch will be gone!

[Keddy]

So today, my wife hits the HOF over at Whack the Pack. I am extremely proud of her for this, she smoked from the age of 12 till last year (around Feb). She smoked 'socially' untill Jan 2nd, she didn't join WTP until we met up with amgdenney and SamCat!!! in Atlanta (thank you ladies for the push).

If you have the time, it would mean alot to me if yall stopped by and posted with her for today. I know I wouldn't have made it this far without yall and in turn, I don't think she would''ve ever stopped smoking socially (which would've eventually turned into back in the habit smoking). Her name is Bex over there, it works the same as here.

Great stuff, Bruce!!
Congrats to both of you and enjoy the freedom.
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