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Re: Quitting
« Reply #135 on: August 21, 2014, 04:52:00 PM »
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DAY 45: The Two Wolves- A Native American Cherokee Story

One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.

He said, “My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.

“One is Evil – It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

“The other is Good – It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

If you romanticize about dipping you are feeding the crave. It you dwell on it, feel sorry for yourself because you can't have one etc. You are feeding the addiction. For too long we have fed our addiction everyday for years. This is why we have such bad cravings at times- the addiction that was once fed everyday is now starving and just like any starving animal it will go to great lengths to be fed. It will fight with everything it has to eat.

We fed this thing for so long that it's powerful- it got so strong that it can hold on for a long, long time. That's why we get cravings at day 50, day 90 or day 180 etc.

It's also why we need to continue to feed our QUIT, because as our QUIT gets stronger those cravings get weaker and further apart.

Much like you fed your addiction every day, it's equally important to 'feed your quit' every damn day by reading different things on KTC, posting roll, exchanging numbers, helping others, listening to the old time quitters, getting on live chat etc.

This is why you hear old time quitters say:
read, read and then read some more
drink the kool aid
get numbers from other quitters
get on live chat
post early and every day
support other groups
help others

The people that know are telling us to feed the right wolf, and do this EDD, ODAAT. We didn't build this addiction because we dipped poison once, we built it because we continued to feed that addiction every day. If you want to be QUIT then you have to continue to build on that QUIT by feeding it everyday.

This is why it's easy to spot a future caver. It's easy to tell if they are feeding their quit sufficiently or not. The guys that post whenever they want, the guys that don't have any numbers or respond to PMs. The post roll and run guys. They aren't doing enough. They have cave written all over them.

Whichever wolf you feed will win.

Feed your quit EDD.

QUIT ON FUCKERS, QUIT ON.
Nice post, boat burner.
Right fucking on! Love this post
Good shit. Your quit demands to be fed every bit as much as your addiction does.
Nicely put brother! Your posts are so deep I need water wings to read them.
LOL Gmann- you can call me a boat burner all day, everyday. In fact you can call me anything you want as long as you never call me a caver.


Who is stronger: a lone wolf or the pack?
Great post.

Research burn your boats. Gmann just gave you quite the compliment.

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #134 on: August 21, 2014, 04:38:00 PM »
Steve,

Thanks for being here. You are killing this quit solidly, one day at a time, and I'm enjoying watching you beat the hell out of it with your Titans!

What did the Dr. say about the tongue?

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #133 on: August 20, 2014, 01:02:00 PM »
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Quote from: FMBM707
DAY 45: The Two Wolves- A Native American Cherokee Story

One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.

He said, “My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.

“One is Evil – It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

“The other is Good – It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

If you romanticize about dipping you are feeding the crave. It you dwell on it, feel sorry for yourself because you can't have one etc. You are feeding the addiction. For too long we have fed our addiction everyday for years. This is why we have such bad cravings at times- the addiction that was once fed everyday is now starving and just like any starving animal it will go to great lengths to be fed. It will fight with everything it has to eat.

We fed this thing for so long that it's powerful- it got so strong that it can hold on for a long, long time. That's why we get cravings at day 50, day 90 or day 180 etc.

It's also why we need to continue to feed our QUIT, because as our QUIT gets stronger those cravings get weaker and further apart.

Much like you fed your addiction every day, it's equally important to 'feed your quit' every damn day by reading different things on KTC, posting roll, exchanging numbers, helping others, listening to the old time quitters, getting on live chat etc.

This is why you hear old time quitters say:
read, read and then read some more
drink the kool aid
get numbers from other quitters
get on live chat
post early and every day
support other groups
help others

The people that know are telling us to feed the right wolf, and do this EDD, ODAAT. We didn't build this addiction because we dipped poison once, we built it because we continued to feed that addiction every day. If you want to be QUIT then you have to continue to build on that QUIT by feeding it everyday.

This is why it's easy to spot a future caver. It's easy to tell if they are feeding their quit sufficiently or not. The guys that post whenever they want, the guys that don't have any numbers or respond to PMs. The post roll and run guys. They aren't doing enough. They have cave written all over them.

Whichever wolf you feed will win.

Feed your quit EDD.

QUIT ON FUCKERS, QUIT ON.
Nice post, boat burner.
Right fucking on! Love this post
Good shit. Your quit demands to be fed every bit as much as your addiction does.
Nicely put brother! Your posts are so deep I need water wings to read them.
LOL Gmann- you can call me a boat burner all day, everyday. In fact you can call me anything you want as long as you never call me a caver.


Who is stronger: a lone wolf or the pack?

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #132 on: August 20, 2014, 11:35:00 AM »
Quote from: Tuco's
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Quote from: gmann
Quote from: FMBM707
DAY 45: The Two Wolves- A Native American Cherokee Story

One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.

He said, “My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.

“One is Evil – It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

“The other is Good – It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

If you romanticize about dipping you are feeding the crave. It you dwell on it, feel sorry for yourself because you can't have one etc. You are feeding the addiction. For too long we have fed our addiction everyday for years. This is why we have such bad cravings at times- the addiction that was once fed everyday is now starving and just like any starving animal it will go to great lengths to be fed. It will fight with everything it has to eat.

We fed this thing for so long that it's powerful- it got so strong that it can hold on for a long, long time. That's why we get cravings at day 50, day 90 or day 180 etc.

It's also why we need to continue to feed our QUIT, because as our QUIT gets stronger those cravings get weaker and further apart.

Much like you fed your addiction every day, it's equally important to 'feed your quit' every damn day by reading different things on KTC, posting roll, exchanging numbers, helping others, listening to the old time quitters, getting on live chat etc.

This is why you hear old time quitters say:
read, read and then read some more
drink the kool aid
get numbers from other quitters
get on live chat
post early and every day
support other groups
help others

The people that know are telling us to feed the right wolf, and do this EDD, ODAAT. We didn't build this addiction because we dipped poison once, we built it because we continued to feed that addiction every day. If you want to be QUIT then you have to continue to build on that QUIT by feeding it everyday.

This is why it's easy to spot a future caver. It's easy to tell if they are feeding their quit sufficiently or not. The guys that post whenever they want, the guys that don't have any numbers or respond to PMs. The post roll and run guys. They aren't doing enough. They have cave written all over them.

Whichever wolf you feed will win.

Feed your quit EDD.

QUIT ON FUCKERS, QUIT ON.
Nice post, boat burner.
Right fucking on! Love this post
Good shit. Your quit demands to be fed every bit as much as your addiction does.
Nicely put brother! Your posts are so deep I need water wings to read them.
"If you want to quit then stop talking and just QUIT. If you want to kill yourself a bullet is cheaper and faster than a tin, plus it eliminates my hearing you whine and cry like a bitch."

Best thing I have read on KTC...Submitted by tgafish on 7/3/14

Former Skoal Straight and Cope Longcut user that started at the age of 12. QUIT on 7/15/13

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #131 on: August 20, 2014, 11:31:00 AM »
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DAY 45: The Two Wolves- A Native American Cherokee Story

One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.

He said, “My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.

“One is Evil – It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

“The other is Good – It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

If you romanticize about dipping you are feeding the crave. It you dwell on it, feel sorry for yourself because you can't have one etc. You are feeding the addiction. For too long we have fed our addiction everyday for years. This is why we have such bad cravings at times- the addiction that was once fed everyday is now starving and just like any starving animal it will go to great lengths to be fed. It will fight with everything it has to eat.

We fed this thing for so long that it's powerful- it got so strong that it can hold on for a long, long time. That's why we get cravings at day 50, day 90 or day 180 etc.

It's also why we need to continue to feed our QUIT, because as our QUIT gets stronger those cravings get weaker and further apart.

Much like you fed your addiction every day, it's equally important to 'feed your quit' every damn day by reading different things on KTC, posting roll, exchanging numbers, helping others, listening to the old time quitters, getting on live chat etc.

This is why you hear old time quitters say:
read, read and then read some more
drink the kool aid
get numbers from other quitters
get on live chat
post early and every day
support other groups
help others

The people that know are telling us to feed the right wolf, and do this EDD, ODAAT. We didn't build this addiction because we dipped poison once, we built it because we continued to feed that addiction every day. If you want to be QUIT then you have to continue to build on that QUIT by feeding it everyday.

This is why it's easy to spot a future caver. It's easy to tell if they are feeding their quit sufficiently or not. The guys that post whenever they want, the guys that don't have any numbers or respond to PMs. The post roll and run guys. They aren't doing enough. They have cave written all over them.

Whichever wolf you feed will win.

Feed your quit EDD.

QUIT ON FUCKERS, QUIT ON.
Nice post, boat burner.
Right fucking on! Love this post
Good shit. Your quit demands to be fed every bit as much as your addiction does.

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #130 on: August 20, 2014, 11:22:00 AM »
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Quote from: FMBM707
DAY 45: The Two Wolves- A Native American Cherokee Story

One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.

He said, “My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.

“One is Evil – It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

“The other is Good – It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

If you romanticize about dipping you are feeding the crave. It you dwell on it, feel sorry for yourself because you can't have one etc. You are feeding the addiction. For too long we have fed our addiction everyday for years. This is why we have such bad cravings at times- the addiction that was once fed everyday is now starving and just like any starving animal it will go to great lengths to be fed. It will fight with everything it has to eat.

We fed this thing for so long that it's powerful- it got so strong that it can hold on for a long, long time. That's why we get cravings at day 50, day 90 or day 180 etc.

It's also why we need to continue to feed our QUIT, because as our QUIT gets stronger those cravings get weaker and further apart.

Much like you fed your addiction every day, it's equally important to 'feed your quit' every damn day by reading different things on KTC, posting roll, exchanging numbers, helping others, listening to the old time quitters, getting on live chat etc.

This is why you hear old time quitters say:
read, read and then read some more
drink the kool aid
get numbers from other quitters
get on live chat
post early and every day
support other groups
help others

The people that know are telling us to feed the right wolf, and do this EDD, ODAAT. We didn't build this addiction because we dipped poison once, we built it because we continued to feed that addiction every day. If you want to be QUIT then you have to continue to build on that QUIT by feeding it everyday.

This is why it's easy to spot a future caver. It's easy to tell if they are feeding their quit sufficiently or not. The guys that post whenever they want, the guys that don't have any numbers or respond to PMs. The post roll and run guys. They aren't doing enough. They have cave written all over them.

Whichever wolf you feed will win.

Feed your quit EDD.

QUIT ON FUCKERS, QUIT ON.
Nice post, boat burner.
Right fucking on! Love this post

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #129 on: August 20, 2014, 10:32:00 AM »
Quote from: FMBM707
DAY 45: The Two Wolves- A Native American Cherokee Story

One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.

He said, “My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.

“One is Evil – It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

“The other is Good – It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

If you romanticize about dipping you are feeding the crave. It you dwell on it, feel sorry for yourself because you can't have one etc. You are feeding the addiction. For too long we have fed our addiction everyday for years. This is why we have such bad cravings at times- the addiction that was once fed everyday is now starving and just like any starving animal it will go to great lengths to be fed. It will fight with everything it has to eat.

We fed this thing for so long that it's powerful- it got so strong that it can hold on for a long, long time. That's why we get cravings at day 50, day 90 or day 180 etc.

It's also why we need to continue to feed our QUIT, because as our QUIT gets stronger those cravings get weaker and further apart.

Much like you fed your addiction every day, it's equally important to 'feed your quit' every damn day by reading different things on KTC, posting roll, exchanging numbers, helping others, listening to the old time quitters, getting on live chat etc.

This is why you hear old time quitters say:
read, read and then read some more
drink the kool aid
get numbers from other quitters
get on live chat
post early and every day
support other groups
help others

The people that know are telling us to feed the right wolf, and do this EDD, ODAAT. We didn't build this addiction because we dipped poison once, we built it because we continued to feed that addiction every day. If you want to be QUIT then you have to continue to build on that QUIT by feeding it everyday.

This is why it's easy to spot a future caver. It's easy to tell if they are feeding their quit sufficiently or not. The guys that post whenever they want, the guys that don't have any numbers or respond to PMs. The post roll and run guys. They aren't doing enough. They have cave written all over them.

Whichever wolf you feed will win.

Feed your quit EDD.

QUIT ON FUCKERS, QUIT ON.
Nice post, boat burner.

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #128 on: August 20, 2014, 10:28:00 AM »
DAY 45: The Two Wolves- A Native American Cherokee Story

One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.

He said, “My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.

“One is Evil – It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

“The other is Good – It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

If you romanticize about dipping you are feeding the crave. It you dwell on it, feel sorry for yourself because you can't have one etc. You are feeding the addiction. For too long we have fed our addiction everyday for years. This is why we have such bad cravings at times- the addiction that was once fed everyday is now starving and just like any starving animal it will go to great lengths to be fed. It will fight with everything it has to eat.

We fed this thing for so long that it's powerful- it got so strong that it can hold on for a long, long time. That's why we get cravings at day 50, day 90 or day 180 etc.

It's also why we need to continue to feed our QUIT, because as our QUIT gets stronger those cravings get weaker and further apart.

Much like you fed your addiction every day, it's equally important to 'feed your quit' every damn day by reading different things on KTC, posting roll, exchanging numbers, helping others, listening to the old time quitters, getting on live chat etc.

This is why you hear old time quitters say:
read, read and then read some more
drink the kool aid
get numbers from other quitters
get on live chat
post early and every day
support other groups
help others

The people that know are telling us to feed the right wolf, and do this EDD, ODAAT. We didn't build this addiction because we dipped poison once, we built it because we continued to feed that addiction every day. If you want to be QUIT then you have to continue to build on that QUIT by feeding it everyday.

This is why it's easy to spot a future caver. It's easy to tell if they are feeding their quit sufficiently or not. The guys that post whenever they want, the guys that don't have any numbers or respond to PMs. The post roll and run guys. They aren't doing enough. They have cave written all over them.

Whichever wolf you feed will win.

Feed your quit EDD.

QUIT ON FUCKERS, QUIT ON.

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #127 on: August 14, 2014, 03:08:00 PM »
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Quote from: rdad
Quote from: FMBM707
Quote from: Pinched
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DAY 39: A question was raised about whether the fear of cancer or disappointing your wife/kids is actually enough to keep someone quit. Note: there's a lot of good post right now going on Otter's intro page about this (around page 4-8)


The fear of cancer can be a powerful motivator but it's not enough to stay quit.
The fear of disappointing your kids or spouse is a powerful motivator but it's not enough.
Hating nicotine or big tobacco is a powerful quit method but it's not enough.
The expense of dip leads some to stop but it's not enough to stay quit.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

There are a lot of powerful motivating factors that can lead someone to 'stop' using nicotine. I use the word 'stop' because on KTC that means a temporary time away from abusing nicotine. Whatever you need to focus on to keep you QUIT at a particular moment latch onto it but know it will eventually fade.

Fear can be extremely motivating, the fear of cancer or fear of disappointing a spouse or kids can help someone stop using tobacco or help someone get through a crave but there is only one thing that will ultimately lead you to QUIT:

Realizing it's a choice. Choose or choose not. Do or do not.

There's nothing wrong with having some motivating reasons to help you make the right choice, like hating big tobacco or fear of cancer, but in the end hate and fear will subside and you will still be left with a choice.

What some people can't seem to understand is that Jesus, spouses, kids, fear of cancer, hate of big tobacco etc. isn't going to keep them QUIT. You are the only person that can keep yourself QUIT. There are plenty of people here willing to help and support you, but you have to make the choice.

I chose to QUIT today therefore I will remain QUIT. There is absolutely nothing that can change that choice but me.
We are all free to make our own choices in life and for all of us one bad decision being made early on brought us all together.

I choose to quit with you again today because I can.

P
Quit with you any day Pinched.

I agree with you Pinched.

The choice of QUITTING is what brought us together. The choice of remaining QUIT is what keeps the connection.
I am quitting today with both of you today. Not because I have to, but because I want to. I like being clean and not living in slavery to nicotine. Everything in my life has improved since I quit. I make my promise to you guys everyday and am so thankful for this brotherhood and the common bond we share. You both made my quit day easier today!
Rdad- You are the man. Really appreciate your texts at the beginning of my QUIT- they were instrumental in this journey. Thank you.
Yes, ya'll get it. I choose to quit with ya'll. Great job.

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #126 on: August 14, 2014, 02:10:00 PM »
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: FMBM707
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: FMBM707
DAY 39: A question was raised about whether the fear of cancer or disappointing your wife/kids is actually enough to keep someone quit. Note: there's a lot of good post right now going on Otter's intro page about this (around page 4-8)


The fear of cancer can be a powerful motivator but it's not enough to stay quit.
The fear of disappointing your kids or spouse is a powerful motivator but it's not enough.
Hating nicotine or big tobacco is a powerful quit method but it's not enough.
The expense of dip leads some to stop but it's not enough to stay quit.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

There are a lot of powerful motivating factors that can lead someone to 'stop' using nicotine. I use the word 'stop' because on KTC that means a temporary time away from abusing nicotine. Whatever you need to focus on to keep you QUIT at a particular moment latch onto it but know it will eventually fade.

Fear can be extremely motivating, the fear of cancer or fear of disappointing a spouse or kids can help someone stop using tobacco or help someone get through a crave but there is only one thing that will ultimately lead you to QUIT:

Realizing it's a choice. Choose or choose not. Do or do not.

There's nothing wrong with having some motivating reasons to help you make the right choice, like hating big tobacco or fear of cancer, but in the end hate and fear will subside and you will still be left with a choice.

What some people can't seem to understand is that Jesus, spouses, kids, fear of cancer, hate of big tobacco etc. isn't going to keep them QUIT. You are the only person that can keep yourself QUIT. There are plenty of people here willing to help and support you, but you have to make the choice.

I chose to QUIT today therefore I will remain QUIT. There is absolutely nothing that can change that choice but me.
We are all free to make our own choices in life and for all of us one bad decision being made early on brought us all together.

I choose to quit with you again today because I can.

P
Quit with you any day Pinched.

I agree with you Pinched.

The choice of QUITTING is what brought us together. The choice of remaining QUIT is what keeps the connection.
I am quitting today with both of you today. Not because I have to, but because I want to. I like being clean and not living in slavery to nicotine. Everything in my life has improved since I quit. I make my promise to you guys everyday and am so thankful for this brotherhood and the common bond we share. You both made my quit day easier today!
Rdad- You are the man. Really appreciate your texts at the beginning of my QUIT- they were instrumental in this journey. Thank you.

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #125 on: August 14, 2014, 11:54:00 AM »
Quote from: FMBM707
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: FMBM707
DAY 39: A question was raised about whether the fear of cancer or disappointing your wife/kids is actually enough to keep someone quit. Note: there's a lot of good post right now going on Otter's intro page about this (around page 4-8)


The fear of cancer can be a powerful motivator but it's not enough to stay quit.
The fear of disappointing your kids or spouse is a powerful motivator but it's not enough.
Hating nicotine or big tobacco is a powerful quit method but it's not enough.
The expense of dip leads some to stop but it's not enough to stay quit.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

There are a lot of powerful motivating factors that can lead someone to 'stop' using nicotine. I use the word 'stop' because on KTC that means a temporary time away from abusing nicotine. Whatever you need to focus on to keep you QUIT at a particular moment latch onto it but know it will eventually fade.

Fear can be extremely motivating, the fear of cancer or fear of disappointing a spouse or kids can help someone stop using tobacco or help someone get through a crave but there is only one thing that will ultimately lead you to QUIT:

Realizing it's a choice. Choose or choose not. Do or do not.

There's nothing wrong with having some motivating reasons to help you make the right choice, like hating big tobacco or fear of cancer, but in the end hate and fear will subside and you will still be left with a choice.

What some people can't seem to understand is that Jesus, spouses, kids, fear of cancer, hate of big tobacco etc. isn't going to keep them QUIT. You are the only person that can keep yourself QUIT. There are plenty of people here willing to help and support you, but you have to make the choice.

I chose to QUIT today therefore I will remain QUIT. There is absolutely nothing that can change that choice but me.
We are all free to make our own choices in life and for all of us one bad decision being made early on brought us all together.

I choose to quit with you again today because I can.

P
Quit with you any day Pinched.

I agree with you Pinched.

The choice of QUITTING is what brought us together. The choice of remaining QUIT is what keeps the connection.
I am quitting today with both of you today. Not because I have to, but because I want to. I like being clean and not living in slavery to nicotine. Everything in my life has improved since I quit. I make my promise to you guys everyday and am so thankful for this brotherhood and the common bond we share. You both made my quit day easier today!

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #124 on: August 14, 2014, 10:07:00 AM »
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DAY 39: A question was raised about whether the fear of cancer or disappointing your wife/kids is actually enough to keep someone quit. Note: there's a lot of good post right now going on Otter's intro page about this (around page 4-8)


The fear of cancer can be a powerful motivator but it's not enough to stay quit.
The fear of disappointing your kids or spouse is a powerful motivator but it's not enough.
Hating nicotine or big tobacco is a powerful quit method but it's not enough.
The expense of dip leads some to stop but it's not enough to stay quit.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

There are a lot of powerful motivating factors that can lead someone to 'stop' using nicotine. I use the word 'stop' because on KTC that means a temporary time away from abusing nicotine. Whatever you need to focus on to keep you QUIT at a particular moment latch onto it but know it will eventually fade.

Fear can be extremely motivating, the fear of cancer or fear of disappointing a spouse or kids can help someone stop using tobacco or help someone get through a crave but there is only one thing that will ultimately lead you to QUIT:

Realizing it's a choice. Choose or choose not. Do or do not.

There's nothing wrong with having some motivating reasons to help you make the right choice, like hating big tobacco or fear of cancer, but in the end hate and fear will subside and you will still be left with a choice.

What some people can't seem to understand is that Jesus, spouses, kids, fear of cancer, hate of big tobacco etc. isn't going to keep them QUIT. You are the only person that can keep yourself QUIT. There are plenty of people here willing to help and support you, but you have to make the choice.

I chose to QUIT today therefore I will remain QUIT. There is absolutely nothing that can change that choice but me.
We are all free to make our own choices in life and for all of us one bad decision being made early on brought us all together.

I choose to quit with you again today because I can.

P
Quit with you any day Pinched.

I agree with you Pinched.

The choice of QUITTING is what brought us together. The choice of remaining QUIT is what keeps the connection.

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #123 on: August 14, 2014, 09:33:00 AM »
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DAY 39: A question was raised about whether the fear of cancer or disappointing your wife/kids is actually enough to keep someone quit. Note: there's a lot of good post right now going on Otter's intro page about this (around page 4-8)


The fear of cancer can be a powerful motivator but it's not enough to stay quit.
The fear of disappointing your kids or spouse is a powerful motivator but it's not enough.
Hating nicotine or big tobacco is a powerful quit method but it's not enough.
The expense of dip leads some to stop but it's not enough to stay quit.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

There are a lot of powerful motivating factors that can lead someone to 'stop' using nicotine. I use the word 'stop' because on KTC that means a temporary time away from abusing nicotine. Whatever you need to focus on to keep you QUIT at a particular moment latch onto it but know it will eventually fade.

Fear can be extremely motivating, the fear of cancer or fear of disappointing a spouse or kids can help someone stop using tobacco or help someone get through a crave but there is only one thing that will ultimately lead you to QUIT:

Realizing it's a choice. Choose or choose not. Do or do not.

There's nothing wrong with having some motivating reasons to help you make the right choice, like hating big tobacco or fear of cancer, but in the end hate and fear will subside and you will still be left with a choice.

What some people can't seem to understand is that Jesus, spouses, kids, fear of cancer, hate of big tobacco etc. isn't going to keep them QUIT. You are the only person that can keep yourself QUIT. There are plenty of people here willing to help and support you, but you have to make the choice.

I chose to QUIT today therefore I will remain QUIT. There is absolutely nothing that can change that choice but me.
We are all free to make our own choices in life and for all of us one bad decision being made early on brought us all together.

I choose to quit with you again today because I can.

P
"If you want to quit then stop talking and just QUIT. If you want to kill yourself a bullet is cheaper and faster than a tin, plus it eliminates my hearing you whine and cry like a bitch."

Best thing I have read on KTC...Submitted by tgafish on 7/3/14

Former Skoal Straight and Cope Longcut user that started at the age of 12. QUIT on 7/15/13

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #122 on: August 14, 2014, 08:57:00 AM »
DAY 39: A question was raised about whether the fear of cancer or disappointing your wife/kids is actually enough to keep someone quit. Note: there's a lot of good post right now going on Otter's intro page about this (around page 4-8)


The fear of cancer can be a powerful motivator but it's not enough to stay quit.
The fear of disappointing your kids or spouse is a powerful motivator but it's not enough.
Hating nicotine or big tobacco is a powerful quit method but it's not enough.
The expense of dip leads some to stop but it's not enough to stay quit.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

There are a lot of powerful motivating factors that can lead someone to 'stop' using nicotine. I use the word 'stop' because on KTC that means a temporary time away from abusing nicotine. Whatever you need to focus on to keep you QUIT at a particular moment latch onto it but know it will eventually fade.

Fear can be extremely motivating, the fear of cancer or fear of disappointing a spouse or kids can help someone stop using tobacco or help someone get through a crave but there is only one thing that will ultimately lead you to QUIT:

Realizing it's a choice. Choose or choose not. Do or do not.

There's nothing wrong with having some motivating reasons to help you make the right choice, like hating big tobacco or fear of cancer, but in the end hate and fear will subside and you will still be left with a choice.

What some people can't seem to understand is that Jesus, spouses, kids, fear of cancer, hate of big tobacco etc. isn't going to keep them QUIT. You are the only person that can keep yourself QUIT. There are plenty of people here willing to help and support you, but you have to make the choice.

I chose to QUIT today therefore I will remain QUIT. There is absolutely nothing that can change that choice but me.

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Re: Quitting
« Reply #121 on: August 14, 2014, 08:33:00 AM »
Took this off of Pinched's intro post from the other day putting it here because I like it:

"I am weaving a web of accountability so big that if I cave there will be a line of people ready to hand me my ass".

Good reminder of why it's important to get involved and stay involved.