DAY 183 Putting this here for reference.
“The Law of Karma is also called the Law of Cause and Effect, Action and Reaction and: as you sow, so shall you reap.” ― Sham Hinduja
I'm sure Lipi isn't the first polarizing figure at KTC and he won't be the last either. The annals of KTC is filled with similar rhetoric. There are a lot of people butt hurt over his departure making statements about leaving KTC (something Lipi would himself call a planned cave) and a lot of people are calling for accountability from the admins/mods- they want answers- so I started looking for answers.
Found under "Board Guidelines":
boardrules/ you will find "A Statement From The Administrators"
topic/1006018/1/#new (I've cut and pasted the shit that's relevant to this matter below)
You might not agree with this decision but I don't agree, nor always follow the legal limit being .08 but if I get busted blaming others for my actions won't solve anything.
These are the words of an administrator from 2010:
"On the internet, there are those who like to project a "badass" image of themselves via their "shocking" posts, or "tough guy" stances and bullying tactics. We've seen it before, we will see it again. These types like to push the envelope and see how far they can go before they get the response they have been hoping to receive. These people like to say things through their keyboard, that in real life, face to face, they would never have the guts to say. These people are called trolls. Unfortunately, many times the trolls on the site are real life quitters. We don't like to feed the trolls, but eventually we have to deal with them.
We allow quite a bit of discussion that involves denouncing the Administrators and Moderators, and some of the actions that we take. We don't censor what is written. We allow life to go on. But threaten to disrupt the quits of others, threaten the integrity of this site, and we will take swift action to put a stop to it. Make no mistake.
We will deal with the trolls. We will take steps to protect this site from their harmful and disruptive behavior. This site is larger than any one person or group of people. We want to see this site continue its growth. We want to see the number of successful quits continue to grow. We want to see the camaraderie between people continue to build and develop into real life friendships. To do that, we have to ensure that the site is accessible and acceptable to the majority, not the minority who thrive on discourse and/or deviation.
We can't be all things to all people. This is the way we choose to run our site. We have very few written rules, but we still will react to issues that aren't covered by the rules. Don't mistake our lack of rules for carte blanche anything goes. We understand if everyone doesn't like what we do on our site. We don't want people to leave the site because of this, but we understand.
Signed,
The Administrators"Although the wording is unambiguous- it is clearly subjective as it relates to banning someone.
Sifting through all the comments and posts there are at minimum two things that a consensus agrees on. 1.) Lipi helped a lot people's quits on this site. 2.) Lipi "push the envelope". Both of these have been documented all over these pages from folks on both sides of the matter.
The admins and mods are being asked to be accountable for their actions.
Shouldn't we also be held accountable for our actions? This wasn't a knee jerk reaction. This wasn't a 'no tolerance' one and done stance taken by the admins/mods.
It's always easiest to blame others for faults of their own. Displacing the blame, the entitlement, the excuses. Nauseating, pathetic, laughable.
Take some fucking responsibility for your actions, if you quit then you know how to do just that. Now apply it to other parts of your life.
