General Discussion - 2016

[Drugaddict11]

Hey everyone just thought Id introduce myself. I was a smoker for about 5 years, would sometimes dip inbetween smokes and really was just a huge nicotine junkie. I quit all nicotine for about 7 months and then crept back into dipping about a tin a week. Then it became a couple tins a week for about a year. The past few months have been a literal battle with dip. Ill stop for 4 or 5 days and be sucked back in. Well this time Im tired of going back. I will not be sucked back in and the last thing thats going to put me 6 feet under is some stupid plant called tobacco! Agh! Its just such a mental anguish quitting you know? Its been the bull of a day for me today. It isnt much but you gotta start somewhere. Its been 3 weeks since my last quit which was a 5 day quit. Well heres to day 1! Its really nice having a place you can vent this stuff to with people who actually have done what every nicotine addict can hardly fathom: control. God bless you all and especially the creators of this site. You are saving many lives with a place like this.
Well this post is all over the place as am I on my first day of a dipless life. Hope yall understand!

[Aregee70]

Feel u Jswiss; I quit 21 dAys ago 3-9. Was coasting ... Using smokey mtn. Fake dip to curb the oral fix; all of sudden anxiety-depression out the ass??? Been constant chewer since 19; now 45. 24-7 unless sleeping  would wake up for it... :huh:
Any other assholes out there similar stuff?

[emc4]

Hey all - new to the site. not sure if i'm posting in the right forum or not. 17 year dipper of skoal straight long. quit 18 days ago. i was feeling like every day was getting just a little bit easier, but the last 2 days I have been a fucking nutjob. I'm antsy, angry, aggressive... depressed... i'm driving erratic and speeding just because i envision a car wreck. I argue with my wife for no reason, just to argue really. I feel like getting a bottle of whiskey and a sledge hammer and just going to town.

how long does this last?? have I always been an asshole and dip was hiding it?

18 days quit is AWESOME! Keep winning! Get into the June 2016 quit group and start posting roll each day. Brotherhood and accountability is what we're about here... topic/11536813/289/

Your quit group is a great place to ask these questions and see how other guys are handling it...

[emc4]

Hello all! After 26 years I am more than ready to lay it down for good. Have tried several times before but only managed to cut back. For me, the first 3 days has never been unbearable. Its the staying quit that gets me.....you know that special turkey hunt when a nice kill must be celebrated with a fatty......etc. 'Remshot'

Get into the July 2016 quit group and start posting roll with your fellow quit brothers. topic/11568995/46/

...just so you know, that "fatty" you want to celebrate with is going to kill you. Stop romanticizing dip... why not celebrate with a hug with your kid or photo to hang in your house...it looks a lot better without a wad of shit in your mouth...

[jswiss11]

Hey all - new to the site. not sure if i'm posting in the right forum or not. 17 year dipper of skoal straight long. quit 18 days ago. i was feeling like every day was getting just a little bit easier, but the last 2 days I have been a fucking nutjob. I'm antsy, angry, aggressive... depressed... i'm driving erratic and speeding just because i envision a car wreck. I argue with my wife for no reason, just to argue really. I feel like getting a bottle of whiskey and a sledge hammer and just going to town.

how long does this last?? have I always been an asshole and dip was hiding it?

[birdkiller]

Hello all! After 26 years I am more than ready to lay it down for good. Have tried several times before but only managed to cut back. For me, the first 3 days has never been unbearable. Its the staying quit that gets me.....you know that special turkey hunt when a nice kill must be celebrated with a fatty......etc. 'Remshot'

[emc4]

Hey guys I'm not certain this is the best place to ask but if there's a better one I can't seem to find it. I quit almost 2 weeks ago and now all I have left is the oral fixation. I tried SMC but that didn't burn or kick at all so tried hooch yesterday. Had 3-4 pinches in through the day and last night/today I had some awful mouth pain and a sore throat. I'm just wondering if that's possibly due to the peppers? If so I'll have to try something else which sucks because I really liked it. Anyone have any experience with hooch?

Sean O - Congrats on making the decision to quit and I'm glad you found this place. Get into your quit group, introduce yourself, and starting posting roll every morning, first thing. You are in the
'Pre-HOF June 2016' quit group. You can click here to get there: topic/11536813/281/

Just go to the last roll post and post your promise not to use nic in any form for that day...then repeat each day. Your quit group is a great place to ask questions like the one you have... get on over there and get on roll!

[Sean O]

Hey guys I'm not certain this is the best place to ask but if there's a better one I can't seem to find it. I quit almost 2 weeks ago and now all I have left is the oral fixation. I tried SMC but that didn't burn or kick at all so tried hooch yesterday. Had 3-4 pinches in through the day and last night/today I had some awful mouth pain and a sore throat. I'm just wondering if that's possibly due to the peppers? If so I'll have to try something else which sucks because I really liked it. Anyone have any experience with hooch?

[Idaho Spuds]

My husband is going to quit, he set his quit day for April 2, 2016. I'm beyond excited to support him through his quit. What helped you quit? Should I leave him be? Hang out with him? I'm so so excited.

I can't attest for everyone's quit but mine the first 3 days were hell. I wanted a dip more than anything, I was just angry because I felt terrible. I couldn't focus on anything just like everyone else describes it as "the fog". Day 2 was so bad I had to leave work about 2 hours early, I ended up spending the rest of the day in my room with the windows blacked out to ease my migraine (something I've never had before). After day 3 it let up a great deal, I only had the fog and constant thoughts of dipping but the cravings at that point had subsided to where they were just nagging rather than desperately wanting one. As for advice I'd say gum/altoids/hard candy things of that nature help, water, water, water and MORE water, mix in some dark juice (cranberry, pomegranate, etc) as to no wash out (I feel like I'm low on electrolytes from so much water at times) due to so much water. And a key thing for me was basic home foods, I went out to eat on day 6, had a big meal and spend the rest of the night with the worst cravings I'd ever had even before I quit. And finally just either avoid anything that may cause triggers (events that will make him want to dip) for me mine were stress, work (couldn't get around that one), home projects, etc.

I think that pretty much sums up my experience as well Swilderbeast. The physical symptoms passed soon enough for me but I drank a ton of water from past experience. That helps with flushing the nicotine out and the headaches. Gum, hard candies and seeds helped a little bit, but the craving saver for me has been the fake dip (Smokey Mountain or Bacoff). I drive quite a bit for work and that's a major trigger for me so having the fake stuff really helped me through the first 2 weeks. Now I am trying to wean myself off of the oral fixation part of it little by little. The absolute biggest thing for me was getting involved in this site and the support, encouragement and especially the accountability from home. Good luck and we're all here for both of you.

I think the hardest thing is the mental strain and anxiety this will quit will have on your husband.
For me, it made me depressed, I felt anxious about the harm I have done to my body and also questioned my self worth, etc.
Here is a link that can help:
http://www.killthecan.org/community/spousal-support/

[mattlock]

My husband is going to quit, he set his quit day for April 2, 2016. I'm beyond excited to support him through his quit. What helped you quit? Should I leave him be? Hang out with him? I'm so so excited.

I can't attest for everyone's quit but mine the first 3 days were hell. I wanted a dip more than anything, I was just angry because I felt terrible. I couldn't focus on anything just like everyone else describes it as "the fog". Day 2 was so bad I had to leave work about 2 hours early, I ended up spending the rest of the day in my room with the windows blacked out to ease my migraine (something I've never had before). After day 3 it let up a great deal, I only had the fog and constant thoughts of dipping but the cravings at that point had subsided to where they were just nagging rather than desperately wanting one. As for advice I'd say gum/altoids/hard candy things of that nature help, water, water, water and MORE water, mix in some dark juice (cranberry, pomegranate, etc) as to no wash out (I feel like I'm low on electrolytes from so much water at times) due to so much water. And a key thing for me was basic home foods, I went out to eat on day 6, had a big meal and spend the rest of the night with the worst cravings I'd ever had even before I quit. And finally just either avoid anything that may cause triggers (events that will make him want to dip) for me mine were stress, work (couldn't get around that one), home projects, etc.

I think that pretty much sums up my experience as well Swilderbeast. The physical symptoms passed soon enough for me but I drank a ton of water from past experience. That helps with flushing the nicotine out and the headaches. Gum, hard candies and seeds helped a little bit, but the craving saver for me has been the fake dip (Smokey Mountain or Bacoff). I drive quite a bit for work and that's a major trigger for me so having the fake stuff really helped me through the first 2 weeks. Now I am trying to wean myself off of the oral fixation part of it little by little. The absolute biggest thing for me was getting involved in this site and the support, encouragement and especially the accountability from home. Good luck and we're all here for both of you.

[Swilderbeast]

My husband is going to quit, he set his quit day for April 2, 2016. I'm beyond excited to support him through his quit. What helped you quit? Should I leave him be? Hang out with him? I'm so so excited.

I can't attest for everyone's quit but mine the first 3 days were hell. I wanted a dip more than anything, I was just angry because I felt terrible. I couldn't focus on anything just like everyone else describes it as "the fog". Day 2 was so bad I had to leave work about 2 hours early, I ended up spending the rest of the day in my room with the windows blacked out to ease my migraine (something I've never had before). After day 3 it let up a great deal, I only had the fog and constant thoughts of dipping but the cravings at that point had subsided to where they were just nagging rather than desperately wanting one. As for advice I'd say gum/altoids/hard candy things of that nature help, water, water, water and MORE water, mix in some dark juice (cranberry, pomegranate, etc) as to no wash out (I feel like I'm low on electrolytes from so much water at times) due to so much water. And a key thing for me was basic home foods, I went out to eat on day 6, had a big meal and spend the rest of the night with the worst cravings I'd ever had even before I quit. And finally just either avoid anything that may cause triggers (events that will make him want to dip) for me mine were stress, work (couldn't get around that one), home projects, etc.

[Deleted User]

My husband is going to quit, he set his quit day for April 2, 2016. I'm beyond excited to support him through his quit. What helped you quit? Should I leave him be? Hang out with him? I'm so so excited.

[Grizzlymint]

I'm curious if anyone has been screened for cancer.

A few years ago (OK, like 15 years ago) a dentist suggested that I get a cancer screening and I ignored him.

Now that I'm quit, and over 40 maybe I should. OK, definitely I should.

Just curious if anyone else has, and how it may have gone.

Good topic! Your dentist should be performing a cancer screening during your bi-annual visit. They should use a light, look under your tongue and around your mouth. I blatantly ask them to give me a good look over, they should also feel your neck and jaw.

I also ask my doctor and he checks as well.

Lastly, if you really want to be reassured, go see an oral surgeon, they will check you out as well.

Be open in your quit, tell them and be proud of your days. I am pumped to tell my dentist that I am 543 days free.

Idaho Spuds 543

I have my dentist give me the cancer check every time I visit him (twice a year).

He looks under my tongue, way back in my throat, gums, etc. Even after nearly 10 years quit it's a beautiful thing to hear "all clear".

Chewie

I need to make an appointment but I'm scared of what I'd hear LOL. I'm such a wienus.

[misterEricHoffman]

Today is my 40th day quit. I couldn't be more surprised at how quickly I'm transitioning right now. I dipped 15 years, a can a day or more, and now I don't even crave it. For the first 10 days or so I was using Smokey Mountain herbal snuff, but I don't even feel the need for that any more. I've tried quitting more times than I can count, but this time is different. When I drive, after I eat, if I get angry or stressed - those cravings are quickly going away and I can't explain why. I still have an oral fixation which I use Grinds coffee pouches or a Werther's Originial to take care of. But that's becoming less and less prevalent as well. Is this what progress feels like?

B)B

[chewie]

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