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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #133 on: June 06, 2018, 01:12:00 PM »
I do pretty well when I am busy and have stuff to do. When I have a few down hours. Man I can start to lose my mind. I have been getting better at realizing there are a few things I can do to relax now. I meditate, I like sitting on my front step or back patio. I like playing with my kids. But alone time can be hard. Just Gotta remember there is things I can do. ODAAT...

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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #132 on: June 02, 2018, 01:55:00 PM »
Feeling weird, I feel itÂ’s because it is the first Day or summer vacation. I get worried about having enough to do. I just think itÂ’s nerves. Feelings that I havenÂ’t felt in a long time. I worry a bit. Worry that I will enjoy the summer. I am sure the summer is going to fly by. I actually will have a lot to do between fixing sprinklers, a college class I am taking and vacations. If anybody else gets these feelings or did let me know. Just wondering if it is normal? I talk to a lot of guys that are quit and a lot that that have quit and start back up. I guess it just scares me. Then worrying about if I can stay quit in the future. When I have those thoughts I just tell myself ODAAT!

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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #131 on: June 01, 2018, 06:26:00 PM »
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Maybe I just need to remember thatÂ’s its just emotions I am feeling, and not the urge to chew. ...
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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #130 on: June 01, 2018, 08:40:00 AM »
Feeling uneasy this AM. I canÂ’t tell you why. Spirits have been up lately. I think itÂ’s because I am tentative to feel good because I was feeling so shifty before. Does that make sense? Has anyone else felt this way? Maybe I just need to remember thatÂ’s its just emotions I am feeling, and not
The urge to chew. Because if I was any emotion I was putting the cat shit in my mouth.

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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #129 on: May 30, 2018, 04:56:00 PM »
Went fishing today...still had some fun...after I didnÂ’t know how to feel... got some lunch and all was good...just retraining myself that life is good without!

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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #128 on: May 29, 2018, 11:24:00 PM »
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Hey Bubba, I've been thinking. The way this intro reads, especially when you say things like "just one" it sounds like (for you) the experience of quitting nicotine has given you a ton of anxiety and depression. However, I think there is a different angle here, one that most of us are familiar with, and that is the self-medicating component of nicotine addiction. Nicotine is an anxiolytic - like Lorazepam. Most of us have self-medicated with nicotine for years. But when you remove your maintenance drug for anxiety, you're still left with the anxiety and/or depression. You're 70+ days in and there is no nicotine in your system, so you're left with the anxiety and depression - and probably the first time you've ever had to face that head on without nicotine as a crutch. Anyhow, I think this explains why you feel this way so long after having killed the can.

Oh, and that comment about taking out the "addiction" in you. This is 100% true.

I am an addict. I'll always be an addict. Today I sit at 1622 days quit and I am no longer an addicted addict. In other words, I am an addict, but I am not addicted. And this is why I post roll every day like my life depends on it ...because it does.
This is my question, I have been pondering this for awhile. I am going to ask the question but not check back till later tonight. I need to go enjoy the day with my family. If nicotine is the same type of drug as lorazepam am I making the healing process take longer if I take that drug? I have not taking that for a few weeks, but if I get overly emotional I am supposed to take it. Please give me your thoughts or ideas. Enjoy your day!
Saying that nicotine and lorazepam are both anxiolytics mean that they both can reduce anxiety. But they're not really the same kind of drug-- nicotine is an alkaloid, while lorazepam is a benzodiazepine. They work in different ways, by affecting different parts of the cells in your brain. I don't know that there's any way to say definitively, but my suspicion would be that using lorazepam as needed is not going to be a major disruption in the healing process.

But even more importantly, you gotta keep yourself healthy and in a good place mentally! If your doctor has recommended taking lorazepam when things get tough as a part of helping you be your healthiest self, then you should heed that advice. Plus, I would think that improved emotional state would be helpful for staying strong in your quit!

Stay strong brother, we're all here for you! Hope you have a great memorial day.
So, Koba is right in that nicotine and lorazepam are different drugs, different classes and work differently in the body, affecting different receptors. The therapeutic effect, however, has some similarity and that being short-term anxiety relief. Lorazepam, and other benzos are used for short-term relief of anxiety, however, if you require long-term or more chronic relief, the treatment of choice are antidepressants, and most commonly seretonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRIs) like Celexa, Lexapro, Zoloft, etc. Moving on from Steak the R.Ph.

To your question, are you making the healing process longer by substituting the anxiolytic properties of lorazepam in place of nicotine. My impression (which is purely my impression and is as good as the next guy's), based on all that you've written is that you have some sort of mental health issue, like anxiety or depression. You've self medicated with nicotine to aid with whatever is causing that and now that you're close to 3 months removed from nicotine, you're dealing with a root issue at hand.

You keep blaming nicotine for your anxiety/depression, like quitting nicotine is the reason you have anxiety and depression. Thing is, if you were popping lorazepam instead of dipping and then suddenly stopped the lorazepam, you'd be blaming lorazepam for your anxiety and depression. The nicotine is out of your system now ...you gotta stop romancing it like it's going to solve your problems, when its actually going to kill you. Difference between lorazepam and nicotine, is that lorazepam (when used under the direction of a physician) is safer. So, treat the anxiety. Treat the depression. Drugs to treat that stuff take 3-4 weeks to get a therapeutic effect and a similar amount of time for side effects to wane.

Time to man up and face the music. Treat the underlying issue and not the symptom
IÂ’ve been in pretty good spirits. I have been having pretty good days. Trying to keep busy and not dwell on stuff. I have not taken any meds. I have just been working out and drinking water and taking Z Sleep. ItÂ’s the tablet form of Zzzquil. I feel the meds were messing with my brain more. Making me down. There is no magic pill for me here. Just me proving to myself that I can live without chew! That I can golf and fish and still love baseball without it.
Hey bubba no sugar coating here. Man up grab your sack and get it done. Hell I dipped 38 years been quit over 3 years now and I still get cravings but you know what I hate that shit and what it has done to me all those years. It damn sure not gonna help you with any of your symptoms. You must take control and realize youÂ’re having these problems now because you chose to dip. If you think being away from the sites gonna keep you from thinking about dip, let me know how that goes. Post your promise early every damn morning and let your brain Rewire itself and also realize you are living a normal life now and thatÂ’s part of the problem, you really donÂ’t know yet, what normal is supposed to be....for myself and so many more on here itÂ’s wonderful! Quit on
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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #127 on: May 29, 2018, 05:10:00 PM »
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Hey Bubba, I've been thinking. The way this intro reads, especially when you say things like "just one" it sounds like (for you) the experience of quitting nicotine has given you a ton of anxiety and depression. However, I think there is a different angle here, one that most of us are familiar with, and that is the self-medicating component of nicotine addiction. Nicotine is an anxiolytic - like Lorazepam. Most of us have self-medicated with nicotine for years. But when you remove your maintenance drug for anxiety, you're still left with the anxiety and/or depression. You're 70+ days in and there is no nicotine in your system, so you're left with the anxiety and depression - and probably the first time you've ever had to face that head on without nicotine as a crutch. Anyhow, I think this explains why you feel this way so long after having killed the can.

Oh, and that comment about taking out the "addiction" in you. This is 100% true.

I am an addict. I'll always be an addict. Today I sit at 1622 days quit and I am no longer an addicted addict. In other words, I am an addict, but I am not addicted. And this is why I post roll every day like my life depends on it ...because it does.
This is my question, I have been pondering this for awhile. I am going to ask the question but not check back till later tonight. I need to go enjoy the day with my family. If nicotine is the same type of drug as lorazepam am I making the healing process take longer if I take that drug? I have not taking that for a few weeks, but if I get overly emotional I am supposed to take it. Please give me your thoughts or ideas. Enjoy your day!
Saying that nicotine and lorazepam are both anxiolytics mean that they both can reduce anxiety. But they're not really the same kind of drug-- nicotine is an alkaloid, while lorazepam is a benzodiazepine. They work in different ways, by affecting different parts of the cells in your brain. I don't know that there's any way to say definitively, but my suspicion would be that using lorazepam as needed is not going to be a major disruption in the healing process.

But even more importantly, you gotta keep yourself healthy and in a good place mentally! If your doctor has recommended taking lorazepam when things get tough as a part of helping you be your healthiest self, then you should heed that advice. Plus, I would think that improved emotional state would be helpful for staying strong in your quit!

Stay strong brother, we're all here for you! Hope you have a great memorial day.
So, Koba is right in that nicotine and lorazepam are different drugs, different classes and work differently in the body, affecting different receptors. The therapeutic effect, however, has some similarity and that being short-term anxiety relief. Lorazepam, and other benzos are used for short-term relief of anxiety, however, if you require long-term or more chronic relief, the treatment of choice are antidepressants, and most commonly seretonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRIs) like Celexa, Lexapro, Zoloft, etc. Moving on from Steak the R.Ph.

To your question, are you making the healing process longer by substituting the anxiolytic properties of lorazepam in place of nicotine. My impression (which is purely my impression and is as good as the next guy's), based on all that you've written is that you have some sort of mental health issue, like anxiety or depression. You've self medicated with nicotine to aid with whatever is causing that and now that you're close to 3 months removed from nicotine, you're dealing with a root issue at hand.

You keep blaming nicotine for your anxiety/depression, like quitting nicotine is the reason you have anxiety and depression. Thing is, if you were popping lorazepam instead of dipping and then suddenly stopped the lorazepam, you'd be blaming lorazepam for your anxiety and depression. The nicotine is out of your system now ...you gotta stop romancing it like it's going to solve your problems, when its actually going to kill you. Difference between lorazepam and nicotine, is that lorazepam (when used under the direction of a physician) is safer. So, treat the anxiety. Treat the depression. Drugs to treat that stuff take 3-4 weeks to get a therapeutic effect and a similar amount of time for side effects to wane.

Time to man up and face the music. Treat the underlying issue and not the symptom
IÂ’ve been in pretty good spirits. I have been having pretty good days. Trying to keep busy and not dwell on stuff. I have not taken any meds. I have just been working out and drinking water and taking Z Sleep. ItÂ’s the tablet form of Zzzquil. I feel the meds were messing with my brain more. Making me down. There is no magic pill for me here. Just me proving to myself that I can live without chew! That I can golf and fish and still love baseball without it.

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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #126 on: May 29, 2018, 10:16:00 AM »
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Hey Bubba, I've been thinking. The way this intro reads, especially when you say things like "just one" it sounds like (for you) the experience of quitting nicotine has given you a ton of anxiety and depression. However, I think there is a different angle here, one that most of us are familiar with, and that is the self-medicating component of nicotine addiction. Nicotine is an anxiolytic - like Lorazepam. Most of us have self-medicated with nicotine for years. But when you remove your maintenance drug for anxiety, you're still left with the anxiety and/or depression. You're 70+ days in and there is no nicotine in your system, so you're left with the anxiety and depression - and probably the first time you've ever had to face that head on without nicotine as a crutch. Anyhow, I think this explains why you feel this way so long after having killed the can.

Oh, and that comment about taking out the "addiction" in you. This is 100% true.

I am an addict. I'll always be an addict. Today I sit at 1622 days quit and I am no longer an addicted addict. In other words, I am an addict, but I am not addicted. And this is why I post roll every day like my life depends on it ...because it does.
This is my question, I have been pondering this for awhile. I am going to ask the question but not check back till later tonight. I need to go enjoy the day with my family. If nicotine is the same type of drug as lorazepam am I making the healing process take longer if I take that drug? I have not taking that for a few weeks, but if I get overly emotional I am supposed to take it. Please give me your thoughts or ideas. Enjoy your day!
Saying that nicotine and lorazepam are both anxiolytics mean that they both can reduce anxiety. But they're not really the same kind of drug-- nicotine is an alkaloid, while lorazepam is a benzodiazepine. They work in different ways, by affecting different parts of the cells in your brain. I don't know that there's any way to say definitively, but my suspicion would be that using lorazepam as needed is not going to be a major disruption in the healing process.

But even more importantly, you gotta keep yourself healthy and in a good place mentally! If your doctor has recommended taking lorazepam when things get tough as a part of helping you be your healthiest self, then you should heed that advice. Plus, I would think that improved emotional state would be helpful for staying strong in your quit!

Stay strong brother, we're all here for you! Hope you have a great memorial day.
So, Koba is right in that nicotine and lorazepam are different drugs, different classes and work differently in the body, affecting different receptors. The therapeutic effect, however, has some similarity and that being short-term anxiety relief. Lorazepam, and other benzos are used for short-term relief of anxiety, however, if you require long-term or more chronic relief, the treatment of choice are antidepressants, and most commonly seretonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRIs) like Celexa, Lexapro, Zoloft, etc. Moving on from Steak the R.Ph.

To your question, are you making the healing process longer by substituting the anxiolytic properties of lorazepam in place of nicotine. My impression (which is purely my impression and is as good as the next guy's), based on all that you've written is that you have some sort of mental health issue, like anxiety or depression. You've self medicated with nicotine to aid with whatever is causing that and now that you're close to 3 months removed from nicotine, you're dealing with a root issue at hand.

You keep blaming nicotine for your anxiety/depression, like quitting nicotine is the reason you have anxiety and depression. Thing is, if you were popping lorazepam instead of dipping and then suddenly stopped the lorazepam, you'd be blaming lorazepam for your anxiety and depression. The nicotine is out of your system now ...you gotta stop romancing it like it's going to solve your problems, when its actually going to kill you. Difference between lorazepam and nicotine, is that lorazepam (when used under the direction of a physician) is safer. So, treat the anxiety. Treat the depression. Drugs to treat that stuff take 3-4 weeks to get a therapeutic effect and a similar amount of time for side effects to wane.

Time to man up and face the music. Treat the underlying issue and not the symptom
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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #125 on: May 28, 2018, 12:23:00 PM »
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Sharing some praise! God is Good! God is Real!

Brothers in quit, I am not shitting you but God spoke to me tonight. At our college baseball spring fling. I am on the fundraising board. The guest speaker. Is a deacon in the Catholic Church. I have been praying all day for god to show me a sign that everything will be ok.

Sure enough, the deacon closed with “My cleanup hitter is and always will be Jesus Christ!”

That same saying is one that I have used my whole life and have not heard anyone else say it.

When I was 19 I had it tattooed on my back left shoulder around a baseball. And the 1969 padres logo. “God is my cleanup hitter”

Pray! God may not give us instant healing but he will show you he is there. Faith is built and I was not a great believer until the last 39 days. I am building my faith with god!

What do you know. Tomorrow is my 40th day. And god will be by my side. How many people in the Bible wandered for 40 days and nights? He sent me a sign that he is here! He is with me!
The anxiety and panic gets better bro. IÂ’m promising you it does...just be strong for you and make your request known to God! My story is somewhat similar, but I am at 132 days free and the anxiety, panic and emotions are controlled for the most part. Sometimes my brain tries to highjack me, but I shut it down! This takes time just let God do is work man.... trouble suffering is just your walk towards the blessings coming. Do it for you man! And obviously give the big man the glory!

Romans 12:2

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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #124 on: May 28, 2018, 12:10:00 PM »
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Hey Bubba, I've been thinking. The way this intro reads, especially when you say things like "just one" it sounds like (for you) the experience of quitting nicotine has given you a ton of anxiety and depression. However, I think there is a different angle here, one that most of us are familiar with, and that is the self-medicating component of nicotine addiction. Nicotine is an anxiolytic - like Lorazepam. Most of us have self-medicated with nicotine for years. But when you remove your maintenance drug for anxiety, you're still left with the anxiety and/or depression. You're 70+ days in and there is no nicotine in your system, so you're left with the anxiety and depression - and probably the first time you've ever had to face that head on without nicotine as a crutch. Anyhow, I think this explains why you feel this way so long after having killed the can.

Oh, and that comment about taking out the "addiction" in you. This is 100% true.

I am an addict. I'll always be an addict. Today I sit at 1622 days quit and I am no longer an addicted addict. In other words, I am an addict, but I am not addicted. And this is why I post roll every day like my life depends on it ...because it does.
This is my question, I have been pondering this for awhile. I am going to ask the question but not check back till later tonight. I need to go enjoy the day with my family. If nicotine is the same type of drug as lorazepam am I making the healing process take longer if I take that drug? I have not taking that for a few weeks, but if I get overly emotional I am supposed to take it. Please give me your thoughts or ideas. Enjoy your day!
Saying that nicotine and lorazepam are both anxiolytics mean that they both can reduce anxiety. But they're not really the same kind of drug-- nicotine is an alkaloid, while lorazepam is a benzodiazepine. They work in different ways, by affecting different parts of the cells in your brain. I don't know that there's any way to say definitively, but my suspicion would be that using lorazepam as needed is not going to be a major disruption in the healing process.

But even more importantly, you gotta keep yourself healthy and in a good place mentally! If your doctor has recommended taking lorazepam when things get tough as a part of helping you be your healthiest self, then you should heed that advice. Plus, I would think that improved emotional state would be helpful for staying strong in your quit!

Stay strong brother, we're all here for you! Hope you have a great memorial day.
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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #123 on: May 28, 2018, 10:30:00 AM »
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Hey Bubba, I've been thinking. The way this intro reads, especially when you say things like "just one" it sounds like (for you) the experience of quitting nicotine has given you a ton of anxiety and depression. However, I think there is a different angle here, one that most of us are familiar with, and that is the self-medicating component of nicotine addiction. Nicotine is an anxiolytic - like Lorazepam. Most of us have self-medicated with nicotine for years. But when you remove your maintenance drug for anxiety, you're still left with the anxiety and/or depression. You're 70+ days in and there is no nicotine in your system, so you're left with the anxiety and depression - and probably the first time you've ever had to face that head on without nicotine as a crutch. Anyhow, I think this explains why you feel this way so long after having killed the can.

Oh, and that comment about taking out the "addiction" in you. This is 100% true.

I am an addict. I'll always be an addict. Today I sit at 1622 days quit and I am no longer an addicted addict. In other words, I am an addict, but I am not addicted. And this is why I post roll every day like my life depends on it ...because it does.
This is my question, I have been pondering this for awhile. I am going to ask the question but not check back till later tonight. I need to go enjoy the day with my family. If nicotine is the same type of drug as lorazepam am I making the healing process take longer if I take that drug? I have not taking that for a few weeks, but if I get overly emotional I am supposed to take it. Please give me your thoughts or ideas. Enjoy your day!

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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #122 on: May 26, 2018, 12:36:00 AM »
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I feel it has helped me to stay away from KTC. I feel that I obsess and then ruminate over my thoughts if I am on KTC to much throughout the day. I will likely post roll in the morning or have someone get me a text pickup. If I am not on the site all the time then I am not always thinking about chew and then I can live a bit. I do not know if this makes sense to any of you but it does to me. I am still searching for who I want to be as a person. How do I want to be known from people? Not in a performance based setting but in a relationship based setting. What do I want people to remember me by. I am kinda on a journey of self-discovery. If that makes any sense. I am going to try like dam not to be on the site all the time today and throughout the weekend. I just get on here and start reading and start ruminating over things that I should not worry about. I have started getting better at running. I have only been drinking water throughout the day. I have an occasional none caffeinated pop if we go out to eat. I do not really worry about what I am eating. I can just tell that my portions are not as big as they used to be. I have been working out for the last however many days and I feel my pants getting loose.

Most people love remembering their day count. I feel when I say my day count in the morning that it can get me down and depressed. I cannot tell you why. I feel it is because at first it was hard for me and it would get me down right away in the morning and then I would not be able to snap out of it. If I could forget my day count that would be great. Because then I wouldn't ruminate on that.

I have been going to a lot of therapy sessions and they have been telling me that when I am wanting chew that could mean I am feeling a certain feeling. Like I hate this, or this sucks, or I am mad. Because I would mask all of my feelings with nicotine then it would make me happy. This idea does make a bit of sense to me so I am going with it. When I get a craving or an urge I need to realize I could just be mad or sad about something.

By the way the last day that I went crazy in my quit group. I was actually mad at first but then I kept going and I was making myself laugh. I had a good time posting what I posted. It put me in a good mood.

Anyhow, I am hoping that I am going to be able to start handling myself better now. I am hoping that getting off the meds will not make me have such drastic mood swings. I have also came to the conclusion that forever is to big of a word for me. Some guys on here just lose it and start talking about forever and you can never chew again. Well, with me, forever is to big of a word. It freaks me out way too much. So when I wake up, I go for a run, and Hopefully day by day I will wake up and fight, wake up and say if I can beat yesterday, I can beat today. Forever is just to much for me and I hope you understand that. However I need to start learning to live One Day at a time. That is not as scary to me.
In the end, it's you and God.

No nicotine.

No KTC.

No wife.

No kids.

No family.

You

and God.

You came into this world alone.

You leave it alone.

God sends you here.

God receives you.

Nothing else matters.
Love how Irish broke that down. We can't quit for you brother. You need to quit yourself - one day at a time.

I will hit 1,000 days within a week. I'm still addicted. I wake up sometimes and I think I caved because I dreamed about caving in my sleep. After so many days of this I have just accepted that I'm never going to be cured. I'm an addict and I always will be. But I still wake up every morning and I can still make choices. I choose not to use nicotine today! Hang in there brother! You can do this!

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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #121 on: May 25, 2018, 10:01:00 PM »
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I feel it has helped me to stay away from KTC. I feel that I obsess and then ruminate over my thoughts if I am on KTC to much throughout the day. I will likely post roll in the morning or have someone get me a text pickup. If I am not on the site all the time then I am not always thinking about chew and then I can live a bit. I do not know if this makes sense to any of you but it does to me. I am still searching for who I want to be as a person. How do I want to be known from people? Not in a performance based setting but in a relationship based setting. What do I want people to remember me by. I am kinda on a journey of self-discovery. If that makes any sense. I am going to try like dam not to be on the site all the time today and throughout the weekend. I just get on here and start reading and start ruminating over things that I should not worry about. I have started getting better at running. I have only been drinking water throughout the day. I have an occasional none caffeinated pop if we go out to eat. I do not really worry about what I am eating. I can just tell that my portions are not as big as they used to be. I have been working out for the last however many days and I feel my pants getting loose.

Most people love remembering their day count. I feel when I say my day count in the morning that it can get me down and depressed. I cannot tell you why. I feel it is because at first it was hard for me and it would get me down right away in the morning and then I would not be able to snap out of it. If I could forget my day count that would be great. Because then I wouldn't ruminate on that.

I have been going to a lot of therapy sessions and they have been telling me that when I am wanting chew that could mean I am feeling a certain feeling. Like I hate this, or this sucks, or I am mad. Because I would mask all of my feelings with nicotine then it would make me happy. This idea does make a bit of sense to me so I am going with it. When I get a craving or an urge I need to realize I could just be mad or sad about something.

By the way the last day that I went crazy in my quit group. I was actually mad at first but then I kept going and I was making myself laugh. I had a good time posting what I posted. It put me in a good mood.

Anyhow, I am hoping that I am going to be able to start handling myself better now. I am hoping that getting off the meds will not make me have such drastic mood swings. I have also came to the conclusion that forever is to big of a word for me. Some guys on here just lose it and start talking about forever and you can never chew again. Well, with me, forever is to big of a word. It freaks me out way too much. So when I wake up, I go for a run, and Hopefully day by day I will wake up and fight, wake up and say if I can beat yesterday, I can beat today. Forever is just to much for me and I hope you understand that. However I need to start learning to live One Day at a time. That is not as scary to me.
In the end, it's you and God.

No nicotine.

No KTC.

No wife.

No kids.

No family.

You

and God.

You came into this world alone.

You leave it alone.

God sends you here.

God receives you.

Nothing else matters.
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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #120 on: May 25, 2018, 09:39:00 PM »
Your attitude is changing. Your starting to figure things out. I hear the day count getting you down thing. It rang true for me too for a while. But just like you said. Live one day at a time. Appreciate today's number, because it's the last time you'll have it brother. 138 for me, I think, man 1138 would be cooler, but after more thought, 138 is just fine. I ate lunch with my family, and get to hang all day with them doing whatever we want. Doesnt matter what the number is, it's the fact that today is good. I hope yours is too man. Quit with you bub.

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Re: Day 16 of my 2nd quit.
« Reply #119 on: May 25, 2018, 03:26:00 PM »
One day at a time is all we can do, Bubba. Proud to be quick with you every day. Just keep posting those promises.
Just one and you will be back to where you started, and where you started was desperately wishing you were where you are now.
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