Apogeeammo - this is me

[rdad]

Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave.  Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.

A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead.  At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.

When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get?  How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?

I am committed to quit today because I posted roll.  I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.

Should I just quit thinking about it?  I'm just struggling with overthinking today!

Moving on!

Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.

Hi Ammo
I know the feeling. Earlier on I read a post by a monster quitter named ready who has been quit for nearly 5 years. He posted some encouragement that things get so much better and that it had been years since he had a crave. Needless to say that got me all worked up wishing for that for myself. Then.....Srans reigned me in by reminding me that ready and all the other vets just did it ODAAT and it "just happens." I actually am now finally coming to grips with that concept for real, and finding comfort in not thinking about being quit for more than just today. For me that is easy to get my brain around and I have faith that if we just keep doing this every day that it will "just happen" for us too! Quit on brother, I am enjoying following your quit. You should be proud of yourself. Keep fucking going! Me and Derek were posting the same time so I missed his quote but what he said below says what I was trying to say better! ;)

[SirDerek]

Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave.  Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.

A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead.  At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.

When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get?  How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?

I am committed to quit today because I posted roll.  I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.

Should I just quit thinking about it?  I'm just struggling with overthinking today!

Moving on!

Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.

there is a common thread with those that come back with a new day 1. And yes that may be that they stop posting, but I rather say that they forgot what got them to the point when they left in the first place.

I say people like that have not 'got' what KTC is. KTC is a brotherhood and it is that which makes it work. So no matter 20, 200 or 2000, we always need to remember what we are being taught here (giving a promise, honoring our word, our new family here of those who we count on and who count on us.

I also then say as we move through life, we will always have our ups and downs. Once you get over the 200, 300, these are most likely due to life and not the quit, but our brain is still wired in such a way that we try to lay blame...

But at that point it is a 1-2 day thing, (hell I went through it over the holidays), but the good 100 days or so leading up to that makes the quitting so much worth it, and from what I hear it will even get better.

So try not to overthink and look to far ahead of yourself. The time and days will pile up, just keep remembering this site, its message and us crazy-ass friends and family that you are a part of.

I quit with you today, ask me tomorrow and I will say the same.

[Scowick65]

Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave.  Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.

A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead.  At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.

When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get?  How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?

I am committed to quit today because I posted roll.  I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.

Should I just quit thinking about it?  I'm just struggling with overthinking today!

Moving on!

I'm right behind you (16 days) and have been thinking about the same stuff. I am coming to realize that the secret is not to think about the long term. It's counterintuitive in some ways (i.e., not thinking about the long-term health consequences are what landed us all here), but I think the extreme short term focus is what makes this all manageable. Inch-by-inch.

Focus on today, and protecting the territory you fought for for the past 20 days. The right time to think about whether you will cave on Day 200 is Day 200. On that day, you'll have 199 hard fought days that will get you through that one troublesome day.

Are there folks that cave after big milestones? Sure. But they are outnumbered by those who never start this filthy habit, and probably by those who don't cave after big milestones. Anyway, today's job is "not being one of them today," and that's not that hard to do. We've already proven that we can get through one day.

x2

[Compton]

Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave.  Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.

A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead.  At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.

When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get?  How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?

I am committed to quit today because I posted roll.  I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.

Should I just quit thinking about it?  I'm just struggling with overthinking today!

Moving on!

I'm right behind you (16 days) and have been thinking about the same stuff. I am coming to realize that the secret is not to think about the long term. It's counterintuitive in some ways (i.e., not thinking about the long-term health consequences are what landed us all here), but I think the extreme short term focus is what makes this all manageable. Inch-by-inch.

Focus on today, and protecting the territory you fought for for the past 20 days. The right time to think about whether you will cave on Day 200 is Day 200. On that day, you'll have 199 hard fought days that will get you through that one troublesome day.

Are there folks that cave after big milestones? Sure. But they are outnumbered by those who never start this filthy habit, and probably by those who don't cave after big milestones. Anyway, today's job is "not being one of them today," and that's not that hard to do. We've already proven that we can get through one day.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.

A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.

When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?

I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.

Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!

Moving on!

Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.

[apogeeammo]

Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.

A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.

When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?

I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.

Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!

Moving on!

[B-loMatt]

Never would have believed 21 days with no Skoal!  But here I am with all of you and with the support of family, friends, KTC and the Resolute Bastards its done.

Here we go with day 22! 'poledancer'

Yeah, way to go baby. What a great quit you've got goin' on. One Day at a Time... and all of a sudden you're up here in the 20's. Hang tough brother. You got this!
ZC.

The bitch will keep trying new ways to convince you to take her back, so stay alert. There's a cadre of you resolute bastards that have some good quit momentum going, and some good support and accountability networks in the making, so keep up what you are doing and keep quitting one day at a time. It helps my quit to see you all doing well, and I'll be glad to help your quit any way I can. Glad to quit with you again today!

Congrats! Enjoy those +1's stacking up.
You quit will gradually shift from battling craves and the fog to one where you battle complacency. The key is to recognize the change and adjust your quit. Stay vigilant. Pay attention, there are dozens of serious quitters who "forget" they are addicts and cave with 100 or more days in... Not suggesting this is you, just trying to give you a heads up on how your quit will need to change...

Best way to fight complacency is to keep doing what has gotten you this far Every Damn Day. Not easy but simple is the way it starts, and when you +1 enough it gets easier and simple: post roll keep your word and repeat. 3 weeks is an awesome accomplishment, but you know what's even better? 22 days that's what. Keep winning.

[T-Cell]

Never would have believed 21 days with no Skoal!  But here I am with all of you and with the support of family, friends, KTC and the Resolute Bastards its done.

Here we go with day 22! 'poledancer'

Yeah, way to go baby. What a great quit you've got goin' on. One Day at a Time... and all of a sudden you're up here in the 20's. Hang tough brother. You got this!
ZC.

The bitch will keep trying new ways to convince you to take her back, so stay alert. There's a cadre of you resolute bastards that have some good quit momentum going, and some good support and accountability networks in the making, so keep up what you are doing and keep quitting one day at a time. It helps my quit to see you all doing well, and I'll be glad to help your quit any way I can. Glad to quit with you again today!

Congrats! Enjoy those +1's stacking up.
You quit will gradually shift from battling craves and the fog to one where you battle complacency. The key is to recognize the change and adjust your quit. Stay vigilant. Pay attention, there are dozens of serious quitters who "forget" they are addicts and cave with 100 or more days in... Not suggesting this is you, just trying to give you a heads up on how your quit will need to change...

[brettlees]

Never would have believed 21 days with no Skoal!  But here I am with all of you and with the support of family, friends, KTC and the Resolute Bastards its done.

Here we go with day 22! 'poledancer'

Yeah, way to go baby. What a great quit you've got goin' on. One Day at a Time... and all of a sudden you're up here in the 20's. Hang tough brother. You got this!
ZC.

The bitch will keep trying new ways to convince you to take her back, so stay alert. There's a cadre of you resolute bastards that have some good quit momentum going, and some good support and accountability networks in the making, so keep up what you are doing and keep quitting one day at a time. It helps my quit to see you all doing well, and I'll be glad to help your quit any way I can. Glad to quit with you again today!

[ZillahCowboy]

Never would have believed 21 days with no Skoal! But here I am with all of you and with the support of family, friends, KTC and the Resolute Bastards its done.

Here we go with day 22! 'poledancer'

Yeah, way to go baby. What a great quit you've got goin' on. One Day at a Time... and all of a sudden you're up here in the 20's. Hang tough brother. You got this!
ZC.

[apogeeammo]

Never would have believed 21 days with no Skoal! But here I am with all of you and with the support of family, friends, KTC and the Resolute Bastards its done.

Here we go with day 22! 'poledancer'

[30isEnuff]

Wow, just tried Smokey Mountain Wintergreen for the first time and it was nice to feel the pull on my gumline again while not feeling guilty about nicotine!  It was a pleasant surprise.

Having grown up on the farm and tasted fresh corn though, it was obvious that corn silks was a major ingredient - bleh!

All in all - I recommend it for short term getting by!

Day 2 of Smokey Mountain. It tastes shitty enough that I didn't want it first thing this morning. Went to a gun show and had a dip (of Shitty Mountain) when I got home.

Feeling good with no nicotine but struggling with cravings for the kick! 'drool'

Jeff, You dipped for 30 years. Keep reading here. Keep quitting for Yourself ODAAT. You don't need the poison, the poison makers needed us. They have lied forever to the world and got away with killing who knows how many.
Study up and learn what nicotine really is...poison.
Rest assured, we are addicts for life. That's okay because we beat the addiction one day at a time for life. It does get much, much better...I promise YOU!
I am free Today with YOU!
I quit with YOU Today!
Be well, be quit, behave.

Resolute Bastards will get through this. Overall have been feeling OK after first three days and kind of "this is not fun but I got this" and then bam yesterday I felt like clawing my own face off most of the day. 'bang head' 'bang head' Hang tough, we got this ODAAT!

Sam, I do remember the face clawing feeling and it was rough.

30, thanks for the support.

Both of your posts remind me that I can expect it to continue getting better. I'm now in a phase of mostly not missing it but I can feel the BITCH whispering in my ear "You've been without me for almost three weeks, surely I wasn't as bad as you thought I was!"

I am a Resolute Bastard though so I will prevail today!

Stay busy.. Now you can do things without the poison controlling your day!
Live Your life. It is Yours.
Do what you're meant to do, period!
Be the best of what and Who You are!

[apogeeammo]

Wow, just tried Smokey Mountain Wintergreen for the first time and it was nice to feel the pull on my gumline again while not feeling guilty about nicotine!  It was a pleasant surprise.

Having grown up on the farm and tasted fresh corn though, it was obvious that corn silks was a major ingredient - bleh!

All in all - I recommend it for short term getting by!

Day 2 of Smokey Mountain. It tastes shitty enough that I didn't want it first thing this morning. Went to a gun show and had a dip (of Shitty Mountain) when I got home.

Feeling good with no nicotine but struggling with cravings for the kick! 'drool'

Jeff, You dipped for 30 years. Keep reading here. Keep quitting for Yourself ODAAT. You don't need the poison, the poison makers needed us. They have lied forever to the world and got away with killing who knows how many.
Study up and learn what nicotine really is...poison.
Rest assured, we are addicts for life. That's okay because we beat the addiction one day at a time for life. It does get much, much better...I promise YOU!
I am free Today with YOU!
I quit with YOU Today!
Be well, be quit, behave.

Resolute Bastards will get through this. Overall have been feeling OK after first three days and kind of "this is not fun but I got this" and then bam yesterday I felt like clawing my own face off most of the day. 'bang head' 'bang head' Hang tough, we got this ODAAT!

Sam, I do remember the face clawing feeling and it was rough.

30, thanks for the support.

Both of your posts remind me that I can expect it to continue getting better. I'm now in a phase of mostly not missing it but I can feel the BITCH whispering in my ear "You've been without me for almost three weeks, surely I wasn't as bad as you thought I was!"

I am a Resolute Bastard though so I will prevail today!

[SAM83]

Wow, just tried Smokey Mountain Wintergreen for the first time and it was nice to feel the pull on my gumline again while not feeling guilty about nicotine!  It was a pleasant surprise.

Having grown up on the farm and tasted fresh corn though, it was obvious that corn silks was a major ingredient - bleh!

All in all - I recommend it for short term getting by!

Day 2 of Smokey Mountain. It tastes shitty enough that I didn't want it first thing this morning. Went to a gun show and had a dip (of Shitty Mountain) when I got home.

Feeling good with no nicotine but struggling with cravings for the kick! 'drool'

Jeff, You dipped for 30 years. Keep reading here. Keep quitting for Yourself ODAAT. You don't need the poison, the poison makers needed us. They have lied forever to the world and got away with killing who knows how many.
Study up and learn what nicotine really is...poison.
Rest assured, we are addicts for life. That's okay because we beat the addiction one day at a time for life. It does get much, much better...I promise YOU!
I am free Today with YOU!
I quit with YOU Today!
Be well, be quit, behave.

Resolute Bastards will get through this. Overall have been feeling OK after first three days and kind of "this is not fun but I got this" and then bam yesterday I felt like clawing my own face off most of the day. 'bang head' 'bang head' Hang tough, we got this ODAAT!

[30isEnuff]

Wow, just tried Smokey Mountain Wintergreen for the first time and it was nice to feel the pull on my gumline again while not feeling guilty about nicotine!  It was a pleasant surprise.

Having grown up on the farm and tasted fresh corn though, it was obvious that corn silks was a major ingredient - bleh!

All in all - I recommend it for short term getting by!

Day 2 of Smokey Mountain. It tastes shitty enough that I didn't want it first thing this morning. Went to a gun show and had a dip (of Shitty Mountain) when I got home.

Feeling good with no nicotine but struggling with cravings for the kick! 'drool'

Jeff, You dipped for 30 years. Keep reading here. Keep quitting for Yourself ODAAT. You don't need the poison, the poison makers needed us. They have lied forever to the world and got away with killing who knows how many.
Study up and learn what nicotine really is...poison.
Rest assured, we are addicts for life. That's okay because we beat the addiction one day at a time for life. It does get much, much better...I promise YOU!
I am free Today with YOU!
I quit with YOU Today!
Be well, be quit, behave.